Scotland and Scottish Ancestry

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Comment by Christopher J. Valin on March 7, 2012 at 9:53am

While doing my research I came across this quite a bit, William. For example, all references to Sir Charles Douglas' mother (that I can remember) call her Christian Hepburn rather than Christian Douglas. Some sources I read said that this was the norm in Scotland (at least in the Lowlands) up until about the 17th Century, and that it was done on headstones and in legal documents after that. However, I read one article from 1867 that said that women in Scotland do not retain their maiden names, so the change happened somewhere in between.

Comment by Tracy Neely on March 7, 2012 at 9:49am

I have read also that when naming children, the oldest son is usually named for the paternal grandfather and the second son is actually the junior. While this is not always the case, if a family is actually doing this, it can give good clues as to where to go for more information.

Comment by Dave Watts on March 7, 2012 at 9:45am

Yes it is true! And they carried the convention all over the English speaking world. Here in Cape Town I se this every time I go off to the Cemetaries to Photographicaly record the headstones for a South African Website. Very practical people my Mothers side. Make excellent Lawyers and Engeneers!

Comment by Judy Anderson on March 7, 2012 at 9:15am

In Scotland a lot of the times, the women's maiden names were on the heaadstones.  Makes it a lot easier for searching .

Comment by William Douglas on March 7, 2012 at 8:59am

In The Journal of Sir William Brereton of Handforth, Cheshire, wirtten in 1635, it states:

Wee lodged in Glasgoaw in Mr. David Weymes house : his wifes 
name is Margrett Cambell (the wives in Scottland never change butt 
allwayes retaine their owne names) noe stabling hereunto belonging 

I have not seen this reference to married women's names before.  How true is this?

Comment by Tracy Neely on March 6, 2012 at 6:07pm

Mrs. Chestang is my friend on fb.

Comment by Tracy Neely on March 6, 2012 at 6:07pm

Thank you Judy. I appreciate your assistance. I own the picture. My mother gave it 2yo me but no one can identify it with certainty. I have been working in this about 10 years off and on always looking for new sources.

Comment by Judy Anderson on March 6, 2012 at 5:35pm

Yes, I can't figure out how to get to that conversation that you just sent me. You have intermediate researcher, so I am sure that you have looked for different spellings of Neely.  That is whay happens, even in the same family, or depending on the person that is doing the Census, or even, we found people writing names down on passenger lists, depending on how is it pronounced.  Lots of different reasons. But, it is unfortunate your experience with the picture.  Have you tried finding that person that has the picture. I love pictures, but that was unfair of that person, especially if they knew who they were.  But, on the other hand, you meet lots of lovely people that are willing to share.  If there is anything that I can do to help, please let me know.  I love helping find the pieces to the puzzle.

Cheers, Judy

Comment by Tracy Neely on March 6, 2012 at 4:44pm

Hi! Contrary to all the Irish connections people claim for Neely, my Neely ancestor Thomas Neely is reportedly from Scotland per the 1880.census recording his son, John's, family. John Neely (b. about 1819 or 1820 in Cincinnati, OH) came to Mobile, Alabama and by 1850 was married to Francis Hernandez and had 2nd children. My difficulty is they were low on the socioeconomic ladder as they were butchers and as a result there are few records. I'm trying tohop thr pond but am not sure how to do it properly.

Comment by Kelley V Schulz on February 9, 2012 at 10:46am

Hi, I'm new to this but have been searching my Ancestry for 2 years now. I discovered I have ancestors who immigrated from Scotland and settled in the New England states. Based on my research, this is somewhat uncommon. I believe they most likely immigrated in the 1700's and my 4th Great Grandfather was born in Vermont in the late 1700's. Does anyone have any information on the Montgomery Clan? Supposedly my ancestor who immigrated was the leader of a company of men who left Scotland ater one of the numerous wars with England and settled in the New England State. My 4th Great Grandfather was John Montgomery (b. ABT 1793, Vermont) and his son was Charles Fowler Montgomery (b. 1814, Otego, NY). If anyone has come across this family, any information would be greatly appreciated!

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