Scotland and Scottish Ancestry

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Comment by Morag Hughson on January 26, 2013 at 5:44am

There are no trams in Shetland - whether Yell or Unst. Also, the tail at the end of that word suggests it would end with a 'g' or a 'y'. I favour Training or Trimming. The word that really has me stumped, and also I suspect is also the key to the puzzle, is the "Cond" word.

Comment by Carolyn Preston on January 25, 2013 at 8:42pm

Ohhhh, conductor of a tram car!

Comment by Rosemary Harris on January 25, 2013 at 7:04pm

On the LDS 1881 disc James Moar 23 if transcribed  as Formerly Cond Trung Car and his handicap is imbecile and on Ancestry it is transcribed as Formerly Cond Tram car.. Is it possible that he moved away for work, had a breakdown, hence former occupation, then came home to Mum. I see he was born on Yell which appears bigger than Unst, maybe it had a tramway. Sorry if this appeared before - wasn't sure if I clicked add comment.

Comment by Carolyn Preston on January 25, 2013 at 6:06pm

Depending on the age, and thinking sideways and squinting, I'm going with construction training carpenter. Not sure if they existed in 1881 but maybe it will start people thinking.

Comment by Morag Hughson on January 25, 2013 at 4:27am

Am struggling to decipher a particular occupation - can anyone help? See http://unstmorag.wordpress.com/2013/01/24/reading-old-handwriting/ for details.

Comment by James P. LaLone on April 22, 2012 at 7:13am

Interesting read:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17740638

Comment by Rosemary Harris on March 7, 2012 at 6:00pm

Most of my 18th & 19th century families follow the Scottish naming pattern.  1st son named for father's father. 2nd son for mother's father and 3rd son for father and 1st daughter for mother's mother, 2nd for father's mother and 3rd for mother. After that sibblings of either parent. This can be very useful for determining which family a person belongs to. Not sure if a woman was actually known by her maiden name or just referred to when spoken about, but headstones always seem to be written that way. Jean Brown, wife of James Stevenson also Elisabeth Stevenson daughter of the above, wife of Robert Orr etc. Most helpful.

Comment by Tracy Neely on March 7, 2012 at 1:03pm

I never thought of Mollie being a nickname for Mary.

I also have to consider any Latin naming patterns as John Neelys wife was an Hernandez. And from what I can discern due to the fact that the children of John Neely (Scottish/Irish ancestry) and Frances Hernandez (Latin ancestry , 1880 census says Italy but I think maybe Canary Islands) marry into the creole population in Mobile, Alabama where they are often documented as mulatto. They may have identified more with this side of the family. At least one child moved to St. Bernard Parish where there is a large Canary Island population.

What would have been the educational concerns of a 1st generation American of Scotch-Irish descent of low socioeconomic status for his daughters in the mid to late 1800s? Do you know?

Comment by Tracy Neely on March 7, 2012 at 12:40pm

Thank you for the site I am going to check it out right now.

Comment by Judy Anderson on March 7, 2012 at 12:38pm

Sorry, "Naming Pattern".

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