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Started by Helen Leggatt May 15, 2012.
OK, Thanks for your replies, I will try them.
Contact FAG and inform them you have a "fallen graver". (Read through their FAQ) Ask them to make the changes you request. You may ask them to transfer the memorial to you as well. I have had a good response if you are respectful, specific and patient, it can take about a month for a response.
Hey Cindy, I think the only thing you can do is email admin. They have helped me on a number of issues over the years.
I found a distant relative on FAG that has no birth or death date listed. I know these dates from their civil war pension file. I was going to e-mail the creator, but discovered that she had passed away. How does a person get information on a site in a case like this?
Would like to know if someone can help me. Over the weekend I posted about 25 pictures on findagrave. Some were requested and I hit the "fulfill" tab before adding the pictures and others were some of names of people I knew. When checking out my profile today it is only showing 25 phots when I should be over 200 photos with about 10 requests I have made. Have anyone else had this problem? If so what do I do about it? Also Findagrave still has not responded to a problem I had about getting corrections made to some memorials of my relatives and about people posting whole obituaries from the local paper. This are of people who recently died and they are listing people still alive. Any suggestions?
I have written permission from the local newspaper to post obituaries on any genealogical-related site because this very small town newspaper does not have an on-line presence. Just because you see the full text of an obituary on a memorial, that does not mean you should jump to the conclusion it is violating the guidelines.
In 2000 the topic of copyright law was an active thread of discussion with contributions by newspaper publishers and others "in the know" ~ for example, one statement by Dan Hamrick is: "It might be legal to reprint it if it were a standard recitation of facts. It might be a violation of copyright if it were an extraordinary work. Nevertheless, it is doubtful if many, or any, newspapers would sue over the repetition of an obituary."
Bear in mind that the contents of obits are not considered original material. Think about it. And that death is a matter of public record. Paid staff writer or not. Most families write their own obits anyway. Now if I present an original article written by John Smith and represent it as my own...then that's plagerism...but it I represent it has having been written by John Smith then that's citing the source and removes the threat of plagerism.
Yes, facts are not copyright but the text that contains them likely is so the best work around is to merely extract the facts.
Then there are privacy issues especially in this day when identity theft is a problem and people can be paranoid as hell about having even their name in print.
To a genealogist obits are nothing but gold. People writing them should treat them as an important document and not just something for the scrapbook.
I think, don't really know for sure, that an obit written by a paid newspaper staff writer would easily meet copyright standards. So by all means, rewrite the thing.
By: Dan Hamrick via Google Search (10/6/2012) Subject: Re: Obituary copyright Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2000 21:56:49 -0500
…..if the obituary is simply a form that recites the facts, it may not reach the unique creation test of copyright law and therefore would not be legally copyrighted.
A death is a matter of public record. The facts of birth, children, marriages, death are all a matter of public record.
There is another thing that is done that is quite common in the news media: Change it, or rewrite it, so that it is not recognizable as the original piece, but make certain the facts are right.
Mr. Hamrick's (he is an editor) comments regarding obituary copyright are sufficient. My credentials in this matter are the fact that I have a Master's Degree and taught writing and English for many years.
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