Pilgrim Era Discussion

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Comment by Sandy Burton on April 30, 2011 at 12:21pm

I just discovered I'm descended from several Mayflower Pasengers! George Soule is one. Also John Howland, and the Tilley's. Currently reading some books by Nathaniel Phlbrick. Quite illuminating. Would love to know more about any of the people, if anyone can point me in the right directions!

Comment by Dan Billington, Ancestry Central on April 11, 2011 at 3:27am

Hi I have the dubious name (Daniel) John Billington, no relation - remember him ?

 

Comment by Liz Loveland on February 14, 2010 at 4:21pm

Whoops, I've got a typo in there - Samuel Hubbard and Tacy Cooper married in Windsor, CT, not in MA.

Comment by Liz Loveland on February 14, 2010 at 4:16pm

Hi Joan,
I'm sorry it's taken me so long to get back to you - I just realized today that I'd thought I'd answered your comment already but hadn't. My direct Hubbard line disappears in the first generation in New England. Samuel Hubbard, an emigre from England to New England (initially Salem, MA), married Tacy/Tasy Cooper (also an England emigre) in 1636 in MA. Histories say that they were both amongst the group that walked to modern-day CT to found it in 1635. They moved on to RI and eventually co-founded the Seventh Day Baptist Church in Newport, RI in 1671, the first branch in the Colonies, which appears to be the main reason so much more has been written about them than most of my other early settlers. (Some of it, in particular the assertion that Samuel's grandfather was burned at the stake in England, appears to be inaccurate, though.) Their daughter Ruth Hubbard, who was born in what became Springfield, MA (originally Agawam) and was the first white child born there, married Robert Burdick in RI in autumn 1655 when she was just 15. They had a very large family (as I'm sure you know was common then) and my direct ancestor is their son Hubbard Burdick, who was born in 1676 in Westerly, Washington Co., RI, and married Hannah Maxson in Westerly in 1714. My direct line (their grandson James) moved up to Canada after the War. There are a bunch of historical quotations about James up at a page of the Burdick surname newsetter: http://www.burdickfamily.org/newsletters/news0804.html

The Hubbards and the Burdicks were both big clans. It appears Burdick was an unusual surname in early New England, but I'm not sure how common Hubbard was.

Anyway, as to your other possible match:

My Williams is Keziah/Cazia Williams, who was born in 1686 in CT and married John Loveland in what's now Glastonbury (then part of Wethersfield), Hartford Co., CT in 1708. Public genealogies list her parents as Thomas Williams and Hannah Hogg, but I haven't done as much research on her as on most of the people in my tree yet, so I'm not sure if this is correct info.

Comment by Joan Foster on February 9, 2010 at 6:33pm

Hi Liz,
No help from me for your Stratton & Olive. Sorry.

However, two in your list rang bells for me, about whom I know almost nothing.

Hubbard: I have a Willliam Hubbard (1727-1771) m. Mary Peck (parents unknown) in New England bef. 1754. Their dau. Mary m. 1st. Oliver Burr, descendant in the CT Jehu Burr line; m 2nd Ebenezer Judson White of Danbury CT, descendant of both Capt. Thomas White, Weymouth MA and Edward White of Dorchester MA (both these Whites b. in England). William Hubbard's father was supposed to be Isaac Hubbard (1693-1771 CT), husband of Bethiah Goldsmith (1698-1770 CT?), dau of Thomas Goldsmith and Bethiah Terry. However I cannot seem to track this Isaac very well. Do you know him or any of these folk?

Williams: I have two Williams, with the "useful" first names of Robert and Thomas.

Robert Williams m. Sarah Washburn, dau of William Washburn and Jane Nichols. William Washburn (1601-bef 1659) from England to Stratford CT to Hempstead, Long Island. I first meet Robert Williams in Long Island ? but he may have moved with the Washburns to Long Island (?)

Thomas Williams I first meet in Long Island as husband of Mary Willets there.

Comment by Liz Loveland on February 7, 2010 at 12:49pm

Hi Joan, Like most people who try to follow collateral lines in addition to direct ancestor lines, I have heaps of surnames in my files. :-) Here are some of my other 1600s New England surnames that I've done the most research on so far:

Glastonbury area of CT: Talcott, Williams

Stonington area, New London County, CT: Burtch/Birch/Burch, Edee/Eddy, Rathburn

Eastern MA/RI (the immigrant generation originally came from England): Burdick, Hubbard, Cooper

I've also been searching for ages for a family that I think is an old New England family, based mostly on my instincts, but I've been unable to trace them. Stratton/Stratten Rowel/Rowell came to Ontario (Upper Canada then) with the Burtch/Birch/Birtch family (his wife Olive and her parents and some of her siblings) after the War. (Originally they went to Bur[t]ch's Landing, Niagara, and then Stratton and Olive were the first settlers in Zorra Township, Oxford.) Some records in Canada say he is from Connecticut, but I've been unable to locate him in CT. A couple secondary sources I have found state (without any citations) that he is from Upstate NY, but that idea also led nowhere.

Comment by Joan Foster on February 7, 2010 at 12:11pm

No Lovelands, Liz, but what are some of the other surnames in CT & eastern MA? I have quite a few.

Comment by Liz Loveland on February 7, 2010 at 12:04pm

I really enjoy going to the old graveyards here in the Boston area. I've taken some photos for FindAGrave. If anyone has anyone they'd like me to search for in a graveyard here, please feel free to message me. (Note: I use my feet and public transit, so completing your request would be dependent on being able to walk or take transit to the cemetery.)

Comment by Liz Loveland on February 7, 2010 at 12:02pm

Hi everyone, Many of my ancestors originally settled in 17th c. New England. My surname line (Loveland) settled by the Connecticut River (near present-day Glastonbury) in Connecticut in the early 1600s, and moved on to Vermont just after the Revolutionary War. Some of my other lines settled originally in CT or eastern MA. The MA lines date from the 1620s-30s, but moved quickly on to RI, apparently for the greater religious freedom, and later moved to Canada. The other CT lines moved to Canada after the War.

Comment by John Scott McKay on January 10, 2010 at 10:00am

Myles Standish was not a Pilgrim per see he was a military man. Scott

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