Started by wm gilbert Nov 10, 2011.
Started by wm gilbert Nov 10, 2011.
Started by Gloria Kay Vandiver Inman, M.A.,. Last reply by Debbie Winchell (Loving Dove) Sep 25, 2011.
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Thinking about KY mysteries,
we have 2 ELDER DNA kits which match the MAINE DNA
group, but are found in Madison Co KY - they listed the wrong ELDER ancestors, so we now need to find their MAINE connection.
Here's one:
ELDER Kit #202515
WorldConnect
by Bryn
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=basbury&id=I11375
ID: I11375
Name: David Robert Elder
Sex: M
Birth: 5 MAR 1865 in Berea, Madison Co., Kentucky
Death: 17 MAR 1935 in Huntsville, Illinois?
Burial: Denver Cemetery, Denver, Hancock, Illinois
Father: Anderson M. Elder b: 18 JUL 1824 in Kentucky
Mother: Sarah Frances Newton
Marriage 1 Jane Novell b: in Cumberland Gap, Tennessee
• Married: 28 NOV 1901
Children
1. Dora Frances Elder
2. Anderson S. Elder
3. Mary Elder
4. Taylor Elder
5. Ward Elder
6. Sarah Myrtle Elder b: 1906
I posted more of the research notes on my webpages
at
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~nancyelder/ed/Mai...
--Nancy Elder Petersen, Vancouver, WA USA
Host, ELDER DNA project
Results:
Hi Anne,
On WorldConnect, Searched for Leonard ELDER, mother: Rachel
found Tim Gallagher's ELDER line of Maryland
at
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=watso...
ID: P3439850121
Birth: 3 August 1800 in Washington, CO, KY 1
Death: 20 May 1877 in Hardinsburg, Breckinridge, Kentucky, USA 1
Name: John ELDER
Sex: M
Father: William ELDER b: 1 Jan 1757 in Emmitsburg, Frederick, Maryland, USA Mother: Ann MCATEE b: 1757 in Emmitsburg, Frederick, Maryland, USA
Marriage 1 Rachel BEAVIN b: 7 Feb 1801 in , , Maryland, USA
• Married: 1820
Children
1. Ann ELDER b: 1818 in , Breckinridge, Kentucky, USA
2. Mary ELDER b: abt 1824 in , , Kentucky, USA
3. Marcella Jane ELDER b: 20 Jan 1825 in , , Kentucky, USA
4. Mary Jane ELDER b: 20 Jan 1825 in , Meade, Kentucky, USA
5. Martha ELDER b: 8 Dec 1829 in , , Kentucky, USA
6. William James ELDER b: 8 Dec 1829 in , , Kentucky, USA
7. Leonard ELDER b: 1830 in , , Kentucky, USA
8. Benedict ELDER b: 20 Nov 1838 in , , Kentucky, USA
9. Frances ELDER b: 22 Dec 1840 in , , Kentucky, USA
10. John ELDER b: 1849 in , , Kentucky, USA
11. Ann ELDER b: Jan 1854 in , , Kentucky, USA
Sources:
1. Title: Family Data Collection - Individual Records
Author: Edmund West, comp. Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2000. Note: Page: Birth year: 1800; Birth city: Washington; Birth state: KY. Note: http://trees.ancestry.com/rd?f=sse&db=genepool&h=789642&...
Note:
Text: Birth date: 3 August 1800Birth place: Washington, CO, KYDeath date: 20 May 1877Death place: Hardinsburg, KY
2. Title: Public Member Trees
Author: Ancestry.com
Publication: Online publication - Provo, UT, USA: The Generations Network, Inc., 2006.Original data - Family trees submitted by Ancestry members.Original data: Family trees submitted by Ancestry members.
Note:
This information comes from 1 or more individual Ancestry Family Tree files. This source citation points you to a current version of those files. Note: The owners of these tree files may have removed or changed information since this source citation was created.
Page: Ancestry Family Trees
Note:
Text: http://trees.ancestry.com/pt/AMTCitationRedir.aspx?tid=3866559&...
---Nancy Elder Petersen
Host, ELDER DNA project
Results:
http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Elder
"FRANKLIN CO PA" ELDER line, DAR member 833222
Rev. War Soldier, Robert ELDER, b. 1730 Perth, Scotland,
d. 1807 Franklin Co PA. (Different DNA than Maryland line)
To Anne,
Tim forwarded your query, and I rembered joining the Genwise group.
Here's my search on Ancestry, using RACHEL ELDER entry in 1850 KY:
1850 Ancestry census
Name: Rachael Elder
Age: 49
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1801
Birth Place: Maryland
Gender: Female
Home in 1850 (City,County,State): District 1, Breckinridge, Kentucky
Family Number: 295
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno Elder 50
Rachael Elder 49
Jane Pate 25
William Elder 21
Leonard Elder 19
Benedic Elder 11
Harriet F Elder 9
Jno R Elder 4
Mary J Pate 7
Jno Pate 5
Austin Pate 3
Martha Elder 20
Source Citation: Year: 1850;
Census Place: District 1, Breckinridge, Kentucky;
Roll: M432_193; Page: 115B; Image: 432.
Someone who has done some work with ELDER out there?
I wonder if perhaps you could help me with a little mystery...
Clara Levinia Whitfill (b. 19 Aug 1860, Grayson County KY; d. 13 Apr 1940, Jefferson County, KY)
daughter of Thomas Jefferson Whitfill and Elizabeth Ann Nokes.
was first married (14 Nov 1879 in Grayson County, KY) to Francis Greenberry Dalton (b. 10 May 1856, Breckinridge County, KY; d. 15 Apr 1898, Breckinridge County, KY)
The two had 8 children together for whom I can find record. (Indeed, one of them being my 2nd great grandfather)
Just recently I kicked over an internet rock and discovered a marriage record from 8 Aug 1905 for Clara L Dalton, daughter of TJ Whitfill and Elisabeth Whitfill, to a Leonard Elder born in 1845, son of Jno. and Rachel Elder.
He would have been 60 at the time, while she was 46.
I can find NO records of this man anywhere. No idea who he was beyond this one record.
When she died in Louisville in 1940, her name was given as "Clara Dalton" and she was eventually buried next to her first husband, Francis Greenberry Dalton, in St. Romuald Cemetery in Breckinridge.
So just when I thought I knew my 3rd great grandma, I find this little tidbit--do you have any idea who this Leonard Elder might have been? Perhaps he died soon after the marriage? Perhaps it was one of those brief marriages of convenience that sometimes happened back then (widow in need of support, older widower in need of domestic help)?
Hi All,
We have just concluded the first reunion of the Descendants of William Elder and his wife's Ann Wheeler Elder and Jacoba Livers Elder in 22 years. The next reunion will most likely be in Kentucky within 2-5 years.
Are there any Elder descendants on this list?
Thanks
Tim Gallagher
President of the William Elder of MD Descendants Association.
301-831-3994 spqr753@msn.com
Meant no disrespect but I am only a 5th gen Kentuckian and my Justinian Cartwright was in the 1790 census of KY. He is my Rev War Patriot and is from VA
Also I am 12 gen from 1620 of George Soule of the Mayflower, so I knew there was no Kentucky then.
Wow 9 generations is great too.
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