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Nancy, Your post on the Perthshire Forum is incomplete. Looks like you got interrupted!

William

Hi Nancy,

Well, I'm a bit jealous of your knights, etc.! I suppose you have been following Julie's ideas about the Frame B Y chromosome-she says there may be a connection to the Duke of Albercorn, so I'll have to get working on that test!

As far as photos go, I have a great one that Nan Scott, oops, Miller had copied for me. It was taken about 1905 maybe, of Andrew and Agnes and all their kids. I just haven't been able to locate it after only a quick look. Perhaps your Mom has one too. We'll have to compare notes and see if we identify everyone the same!

Talk to you soon,

Dara

Hi Nancy,

When I mentioned you to my Mom, she was pretty sure you would be Agnes' daughter! We've been away for a few days on a small trip to Muskoka as since my sister-in-law died in April it's best for my mom and dad to keep distracted. Did visit my uncle Andrew Frame and he likes the idea of doing the cheek swab for the Y chromosome, but didn't like the idea of the fee! He is 82 now, and my dad 78. With all these long-lived people on the family tree we'll all have to be sure to put a bit extra away for our old age! Only my grandfather got left out, having died at 59, so I never met him.

Talk to you soon,

Dara

Hi Nancy,

So we're second cousins then, as your grandmother's little brother Alexander was my grandfather. I left another comment on MyFamily.com after our Auntie Jean's gravestone popped up there!

I met your grandmother in Ayr in 1988. She was with one of her daughters I think, and I came to visit as she is definitely the only one of the sibs I met as an adult. When we visited Scotland when I was 9 I remember seeing Aunty Tine puttering in the garden--she was already a great age by then.

Thanks so much for your offer of help with Francis Hall, but I'm afraid that he died in India. He was in the 93rd Sutherland Highlanders and died in Lucknow India 19 May 1858, which is not too long after the Mutiny was put down there. However, I suspect that his death was due to malaria or some other tropical disease. He was also involved with all the battles in the Crimean War, and the 93rd formed part of the famous Thin Red Line.

He was often sent to Malta and home to Dundee because he was sick, and also was not shy of going AWOL, which is probably just as well, as otherwise his kids might not have been born. I am descended from his son Robert born in Dundee in 1852. I don't have much else on Francis, except that he joined the army on 28 Jan 1842 and moved to the 93rd in the first quarter of 1854.

If any of the above gives you any ideas on how to find his birth records I would greatly appreciate it. I'm not even too sure how to narrow down when he might have been born--early 1820s perhaps? But his marriage does state Clackmannan as his birthplace. He was married to Ann Morrison, who later remarried to a Carnegie.

By the way, I suppose Hall is a common enough name in Clackmannan?

Thanks so much for your interest!

Dara

Hi Nancy,

I see that we have a couple of names in common so I thought I'd check! My grandfather's sister Agnes Frame b. about 1891 married a Lambie. Probably just a coincidence!

Also I see that you are in Clackmannan--I have an ancestor from there on my mom's side instead. Francis Hall b. about1820 but he joined the merchant navy and then the Army and died in 1858 in India, right after being involved in the Mutiny, so you won't find him in your death registers!

Thanks for any help!

Dara Kennedy