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What surnames are you interested in researching?: Arbuckle
Ballard
Clark
Daily, Danforth, Davidson
Johnson
Lane
Moore, Mossman
Neagle
Peters, Pilcher

What countries and other locations are you interested in researching?: United States, Scotland, Canada, Italy

What is your level of genealogy knowledge?: Intermediate Family History Researcher

For what reason did you start genealogy research?: Desiring to write an historical novel based on the life of my 2nd great grandparents in St. Louis, I was determined to learn who all the persons mentioned in the family letters were. Twenty years later ...

Do you have a genealogy website or blog?: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~sunnyann/

Genealogy Website Surname Index for P. Davidson-Peters aka "Sunnyann"

PDP's Roots & Branches - A blog to complement my websites

Early St. Louis Blog by P. Davidson-Peters

Daily Branches of Clark Co., Indiana

Davidson & Arbuckle of Scotland

Moore & Pilcher of St. Louis, Missouri

The Peters - Early Settlers of Monroe Co., Michigan

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The Vosburgh Headstone Investigation

I recently blogged about the headstone marker I had seen at Bellefontaine Cemetery in St. Louis for a Mary Cecelia, and how I came to find out that she was the same as Beulah Abrams (Moore) Vosburgh. Our family had never known Aunt Beu to go by any other name besides Beulah, so it was quite a surprise to find her death certificate, burial, and even census records listing her as Mary Cecelia.

You can read the full blog here ... and if you have any ideas why or any relation to the…

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Posted on November 1, 2011 at 9:15am

Bushwhackers and Broken Hearts

Thanks to Mr. Sullivan for publishing the Civil War letters of his ancestor, John M. Barton.

Our families were brought together during the Civil War when both Barton and Moore served in the Co. K of the 33rd MO regiment. Barton died in May 1863, and as Sullivan states, "his letters were taken by a fellow soldier, Thomas Anderson Moore, to return to his people. But Moore was wounded and left for dead in the Confederate attack on Helena, Arkansas on 4 July 1863. In hospital in Memphis,… Continue

Posted on May 12, 2010 at 8:17am

Updates to Early St. Louis Website

Updates from EARLY ST. LOUIS

WHAT'S NEW: December 28, 2009

1. Brief Biographical Sketch of Joseph V. Garnier

2. Obituary of John Hogan - NY Times 06 Feb 1892

3. Brief Biographical Sketch of John Hogan (Postmaster, Congressman & Author)

4. Photo of Bank of St. Louis; Custom House & Post Office

The recent additions are relative to the families of Garnier, Sanguinet, Hogan.

Link to the new additions:… Continue

Posted on December 28, 2009 at 4:04pm

James Fenton of Crimble Hall - Brief Sketch

Recently posted a photo and brief sketch of Colonel James Fenton of Crimble Hall on my site.

If you have any further information, comments etc., please email me or add a posted comment.
Thanks!

Posted on August 31, 2009 at 12:36pm

Fenton Family of Crimble Hall

Currently working on additions to the Fenton family of Crimble Hall. Focus on descendants of Colonel James Fenton, son John and his 2nd wife Hannah (Owston). Colonel James came to the U.S. in 1880 and settled in Plymouth Co., Iowa. He was married to his cousin Frances Emily (Owston), daughter of William. His brother Robert, who accompanied him to the U.S. was married to Eliza Radcliffe and lived in Gage Co., Nebraska before removing to Colorado where he died in 1909.

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Posted on August 17, 2009 at 1:40pm

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At 11:17pm on October 19, 2009, Amy Steen said…: Sorry in taking so long to get back to you. Was side tracked with other projects. Just starting to read your Early St. Louis site - you seem to be doing great work!! It's funny - I never considered my family as part of early St. Louis because we weren't here until much later (after 1900). I guess the fact that my uncle was working with a St. Louis based company would make it more applicable.
I am trying to put more together in time regarding Samuel as I'm able to piece it together. A collection of William Ashley's papers are now at the Missouri Historical Society - Dennis only recently completed an index of them of which there was a Tullock mention which appears to be for one of Samuel's brothers. I will add onto your group here following this and look forward to more sharing of finds in the future!

At 5:00pm on September 8, 2009, P. Davidson-Peters said…: Thanks for taking the time to look through for Pilcher while you were there. Dennis Northcott has been extremely helpful to me over the years. There is an entire file for Major Joshua Pilcher who is the same as I mentioned.

Perhaps you did not yet check out my website Early St. Louis yet. It has quite a bit of information on the fur traders though it is centered around Major Joshua Pilcher and those he was associated with. I thought you might want to contribute info regarding Sam Tulloch as well. He and Pilcher were both way out west early on.

Please check out the site when you get a chance, I think you might find it helpful. I was aware of the link you mentioned, and have several others on my Outside Links button that may also be helpful to you.

Here for the website
EARLY ST. LOUIS

And would love to have you join my small little group here by the same name :)
Patti

At 4:44pm on September 8, 2009, Amy Steen said…: Hi there! Wanted to let you know that I made it by the Missouri History Museum today, to check a couple of new items I had become aware of and in doing so, Dennis Northcott the archivist, showed me yet another resource. He showed me "Index to the Microfilm of the American Fur Trade Ledgers Vol II." It covered people and places from M-Z. I found a few items on my Tulloch and there appear to be a number of pages related to a Maj. Joseph Pilcher, not sure if this is the person you're looking for or maybe related but thought you'd like to know. Amy

At 9:58pm on September 2, 2009, Amy Steen said…: I'm still trying to uncover information about him. He's been rather elusive, but I certainly wouldn't say insignificant. Through another family researcher when I first got started, I had heard he was to have been a fur trapper, but had nothing to definitive to go on.
Turns out Samuel was on the same expedition when James Bridger discovered the Great Salt Lake according to a letter that Robert Campbell wrote documenting the find to someone in 1857. This letter was documented in an older volume of the Annals of Wyoming. (Vol 15, July 1943, No 3, pgs 227-28. I obtained the copy from the Wyoming's State Library Division back in 2002 and have been slowly picking away at this ever since. Actually it seems to have been by chance that Bridger ended up being the discover based on the letter. Samuel seems to have been an independent trapper as well as working with the American Fur Company though this isn't confirmed (yet!). He was a major trader among the Crow who thought highly of him. He was given he Indian name "Crane" either for his long slender neck or his tall slender build. I've seen suggestions both ways. He's been associated with Fort Cass, Fort Union and Fort Van Buren and attributed as the lead in building the last two forts named. I can't say that I've seen Pilcher's name, but then again I haven't looked for it either.
When I do find mention of Samuel, it's almost always brief, just a line or two. I have found more mentions over the years from more sources. The best yet was at the Missouri Historical Society earlier this summer. They have several significant collections in their archives where pieces have come up. I have a copy of a letter to Chouteau from Samuel requesting payment be made to Kenneth McKenzie who was collecting payment for Samuel's work in 1834.
Forgive me for rambling, but I do have more on Samuel and happy to share. As a side, one of the websites I turn to time and again for new leads in this area is: http://www.xmission.com/~drudy/amm.html for "Mountain Men and the Fur Trade". If you click on "Items of Interest" in the top half of the screen and then the second item in the list on the next screen to the left it - leads you to a PDF database of everything that the master of this site has collected to date for identified Mountain Men. I just double checked it and there's a good list of references started for Joshua Pilcher. Hope this helps!

At 9:32pm on September 1, 2009, Amy Steen said…: Hi there, saw your post on the St. Louis group and thought I would reach out to you directly. I live in the St. Louis area and my ancestors have primarily been in Missouri for a long time, which brings me to my post. I do have a fur trapper in grandmother's maternal line. His name is Samuel Tullock (also found under the old spelling of Tulloch) and he's an uncle quite a few "Greats" back. He came to Missouri around 1815 from what I understand so far and his family settled in the Washington County and surrounding areas. I know he was fur trapping as early as 1824-5, possibly sooner. I know bits more if you're interested and if by chance you've come across his name I'd love to know as well. Amy

At 12:30pm on August 8, 2009, P. Davidson-Peters said…: Halton Hamilton History Blog cites the Brant Miltary Hospital site as an "excellent new website."

They also offer more information on the area that may be of interest to those who served in the Canadian Expeditionary Forces or who lived in the Burlington, Ontario area.

At 6:15pm on July 23, 2009, Tammy Clifford Larsen said…: Done!

At 4:50pm on July 23, 2009, P. Davidson-Peters said…: Joyce,

On the history of Brant Military Hospital they say the hospital closed in 1923 and patients were taken to Christie Street Hospital in Toronto and the sanitarium in Hamilton.

You may also find the Library and Archives of Canada very helpful if you have not yet visited. The attestation files are available to view and download with a very nice search engine.

At 3:15pm on July 23, 2009, Joyce Grady said…: Hi Patti: I was on your site and you have done a nice job with all the information that is available.

In your research have you found other hospitals or sanatoriums in Ontario, Canada. I am sure my grandfather died in a sanatorium in Kingston, Ontario, Canada. Thank you so much

At 8:13pm on July 22, 2009, Tammy Clifford Larsen said…: Thanks, Patti. Yes, i am very interested as i have such little information and only a few photos of my own. The headstones are that of my father & grandfather who are buried in the Woodland Cemetery- Veterans section. I am 2,000 miles away so all info & photos help alot. * Tammy