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Kansas Militia Company K 10th Regiment

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Comment by Beverly Simpson on July 19, 2013 at 10:51am

Looking for any info on Albert Dunlap/Dunlop...He was a Confederate surgeon...I think he was from TN...after the war he ended up in Ft. Smith, AR and then on to Winslow, AR...he was born about 1829...if anyone can find me some info please send it to me at winslow.museum@yahoo.com or post on here...thanks so much!

Comment by Edward Douglas Fitts on April 4, 2013 at 3:35pm

Family Tree magazine e news letter says that Fold3 is commenurating Confederate History month by allowing free viewing of their Confederate records during April 2013. please check this out for those who are looking for information.

Comment by Robert Olson on April 3, 2013 at 7:55am

Thank you Al and Liz for your posts,

The families I am researching in Missouri are McDonalds. They moved from Virginia in the 1850’s and by the start of the Civil War were operating several saw mills and had 160 acre farm south of Chillicothe. I suspect you are right about them likely being involved in unsanctioned activities for the south.  I think I need to do more research on General Slack because I suspect he unofficially recruited sympathizers for certain purposes or raids and did not officially induct them into the CSA military.

Since I know that my gg grandfather (Crocket McDonald) was captured at the battle of Lexington or Springfield, I like the idea of seeing if I can find out who captured him. I have been looking at the Missouri Provost Marshall records because they were basically the law of the land after Marshall Law was declared. They have good records and I actually discovered quite a bit. There is a good report about the McDonald family being robbed by a band of Union sympathizers. It lists everything that was taken down to my gg grandmother’s pocket pistol and my gg grandfather’s watch. On several occasions reports were made to the Provost Marshalls that the McDonalds were sheltering bushwhackers and hiding them in their corn fields, giving them guns, etc. But the brothers continued living on and working the farm so for some reason they were never arrested. That may have had something to do with them being a fairly prominent family in the area.

I do have some journal documents where my gg grandmother talks about raids from ‘Redlegs and Jayhawkers’ coming from Kansas. At one time she said she could see 11 farms burning from her front porch. Near the end of the war they had their farm burned as well.

With what I know so far, I believe these men may have been part of the Missouri Partisan Rangers or Bushwhackers, but their names do not show up in the well known groups like Quantrill’s Raiders.

I am brand new to this site and I noticed after my post that there is a small group that appears to be dealing with Missouri in the Civil War. I think I will try asking around there as well.

Thanks again and best regards.

Comment by Al Dawson on April 2, 2013 at 8:17pm
Comment by Liz Richardson on April 2, 2013 at 7:12pm

Hi Robert,

I have some colorful ancestors of my own, bless them. :-) The Confederate Army was not the best record-keepers to start with, if my own ancestors' records are anything to go by, and then they BBQ-ed their records in Richmond when it fell so the Union army wouldn't get their hands on them. There are a lot of holes for evidence to fall through. The good news is that the Union Army did keep records, and your ancestors came into contact with them when they were captured. I'm not familiar with Gratiot Prison, and you may have already done this already and hit a dead end, but look in the registers for that prison to see what, if any, unit they listed when your ancestors were captured. I'm sure you've already done the obvious like look for pension applications, etc.

I've also found missing ancestors by looking at newspapers for that time; many listed military rosters at the time the unit was mustered in - which could fill in gaps in the official rosters - and newspapers also talked about the part their "local boys" played in various battles. 

I don't know your family or their personalities, but I'm also wondering, because of their active support of the bushwackers, if they themselves didn't serve in a capacity that wasn't exactly officially sanctioned. I know very little about the bushwackers, but I understand that the government/military on both sides wasn't sure how to treat them.

Diaries and letters are another good source - even if your ancestors didn't write or keep any, others who fought with them may have. I noticed that you didn't list the names of those who you're researching, but you may consider putting those out there in case others researching in that area come across those names. 

Anyway, those are just my off-the-cuff thoughts. Since you asked. :-) Good luck!

Comment by Robert Olson on April 2, 2013 at 9:31am

I am researching my 2nd great grandfather and his brothers and cousins participation in the Civil War. In the mid 1850's they moved from Virginia to Missouri. I know they were southern sympathizers because I have found where they declared themselves as 'disloyal' and also I know my gg grandfather was captured and taken to Gratiot Prison in St. Louis. He was later released or exchanged and signed an oath to the US which I have a copy of. I also have copies of several reports made to the Provost Marshall stating that My gg grandfather and some of his brothers rode of with Capt. Slack and participated in the battles of Lexington and Springfield. These reports also say that he and his family were known to shelter bushwackers and supplied guns to them. I have been unable to find any of their names listed on any Confederate rosters. I know Capt. Slack was made a General under Gen. Price and I have evidence Slack recruited these men but no evidence of them being in the CSA military. Any thoughts? 

Comment by Liz Richardson on April 1, 2013 at 9:48am

Hi Dori,

I was curious about your Peter McKinney and had a few minutes to do a little digging. I found a Peter McKinney who enlisted in Co. G, 10th Georgia Infantry, in May 1861 from Hawkinsville (Pulaski County), GA. I assume this is the one you referred to? He was discharged in August of that same year. His CMSR doesn't state the reason why, but he's listed as being on sick leave for both muster rolls between those two points in time. 

According to the US National Internment Control Form for Finn's Point National Cemetery, the Peter McKinney buried there was part of Co. A, 44th Alabama Regiment. I looked at the CMSR for that individual, and he enlisted in (presumably) 1862 from Pleasant Hill, AL, was wounded at Gettysburg (ball in the arm and chest) and left behind in a field hospital. He was taken prisoner and sent to Fort Delaware where he died 03 Jan 1864 of an inflammation of the lungs. 

I couldn't find anything that indicated these two individuals were the same man, but that doesn't mean they weren't. All sorts of strange things happen in wartime, but it's wise to question the assumptions made in the Ancestry.com trees. Perhaps you could contact the owners of the trees on Ancestry and ask them about their evidence? 

Comment by Dori Emerson Lloyd on April 1, 2013 at 7:02am

P.S....  None of the records attached to Peter McKinney have his age listed... are there any Civil War records that would have a soldier's age? This is his "record" info:

Name: Peter McKinney
Service Info.: PVT CONFEDERATE STATES Army
Death Date: 3 Jan 1864
Interment Date: 3 Jan 1864
Cemetery: Finn's Point National Cemetery
Cemetery Address: R.F.D. No. 3, Box 542 Fort Mott Road Salem , NJ 08079
Buried At: Section Cm Site 1429
Comment by Dori Emerson Lloyd on April 1, 2013 at 6:58am

Hello,  I have many ancestors who served in the Civil War (CSA) but have two things that interest/puzzle me:  1) John S. McKinney (GA) served in the Co. H-First Choctaw and Chickasaw Mounted Rifles.  That is a clue that we actually do have NA in us--it was John S.'s grandson, my grandfather, who never had to shave (and never had a beard), yet I suppose this is anecdotal...   2) John S.'s father, Peter McKinney supposedly signed up to fight in Pulaski County, GA (they lived in Berrien Co.) and then supposedly died in battle and was buried in New Jersey.  All the Ancestry.com Trees have this.  I doubt it, because at the time of his enlistment as a Private he would have been 57 years old, and that seems wrong to me.  Any thoughts about either?  Thanks!

Comment by S. J. Cruse on December 2, 2012 at 1:45am

Jim, I apologize. I miss wrote--I mean Gettysburg and yes would like to join.

 

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