orn Randolph / Randall). The only people I can match on the Lewis line are my grandmother's brothers (all deceased), and my grandmother's sisters and their female descendants. Males inherit their mother's Mt-DNA, but it is NOT passed down to their children. This is not very useful for Lewis genealogy, since I know of my closer relatives, but it might become more useful in the future as later female generations do not know their families.
The Taylor DNA test taught me a lot. I had to increase markers several time to get relevant genealogical information. I DID get relevant information useful for genealogy eventually. Both Taylor and Lewis are common names. I encourage people interested in doing DNA testing to start with in-depth tests. These tests are more expensive, but worth it. As far as I am concerned, the more simple, and less expensive DNA tests are worthless for people with common names, and a waste of money.
Yes, Michael is correct that the genealogy research is also important along with the DNA. However the DNA results will tell you when there is an error in the genealogy research. Errors are easy in researching common names. I have a lot of common names in my direct lines. The DNA results is grouped with others with similar results, if you do testing with a certain company. This results can also be compared with results from other companies at a certain web site.
The biggest problem with DNA testing seems to be people not testing in-depth. Superficial tests do not show much.…
ght hand holding a sword krivošiju and left stands a golden lion.
JEWELRY: For the crowned golden helmets peeks armored soldier in his right hand holding a sword krivošiju, and left the green flag.
SCREEN: gold - blue and red - silver.
Certainly it can be established that the name originates from the fathers' occupations potter, so are the descendants later named Loncaric.
There are more kinship communities of this surname, which is widespread from the coast to the Danube.
Armorial on the allocation of nobility and coats of arms is divided in Vienna, 2 siječnja 1747th The George (George) Loncaric and his son John.
The nobility was declared and confirmed by the Croatian Parliament 1755th year.
Loncaric were old rod in Rotčoj Vasi, a village in Buzani ie Buškoj parish in Lika. They lived in the area of small fields east of Kaludjerovac.
Noble people from this region, among whom were Loncaric, belonged to the old tribe Stupica started either in the village and church. Helen stood under the mountain to relay Vršeljkom. In the 16th century are mentioned in several historical documents such noble people.
In historical documents the name was first mentioned in the Feudal Law Modruški 1486th , and 1512th mentioned in the Lika region, ie, in Buzan.
Loncaric mentioned in the Feudal Law Modruški lived as a noble people in Bosiljevo where they had their farms.
In 1540th mentioned in Bihac in a document about the members of the military crew.
During battles with the Turks, many of the members of this genus migrated in Burgenland (Austria) and Slovenia.
In a document of Duke Vuk Krsto Frankopan from 1630. has been mentioned ogulinski citizen Simon Loncaric.
List of soldiers from Ogulin 1699th The records Miku Lončarića .82
In Ogulinsko - Modrus valley develop parent ancestral village in Oštarije, a resident in the village of Grab.
Several families still live in Lončarić Senju and other places of the Croatian coast.
(Translated from a message board at: http://www.cro-eu.com/forum/index.php?topic=772.0)
Brief information on the LONCARIC surname:
The Loncharich surname is an occupational name of Croatian origin and includes variations of Loncar, Lonchar, Loncaric, Loncarich, and Loncharich and other spelling variations. The family name appears in Europe, Canada, USA and South America. One of the earliest references to the Loncaric name is a record of one Djordj Loncaric, who was ennobled and granted a coat of arms by the Austrian Empire in 1747. The honor was registered later that year with the Croatian assembly. This DNA project represents the first time various Loncharich families have attempted to establish connections between family lines. To participate meaningfully, test subjects will need to provide their direct male line ancestry back to the earliest known Loncaric (or variant) either in the form of a pedigree chart or, preferable, family group sheets (excluding living persons).
(From the Loncaric DNA Project website: http://www.igenea.com/en/index.php?c=76&npi=2197)
More brief information on the LONCARIC surname:
Loncar in Croatian means a potter, tinker or ceramic maker. Name variations are Loncar, Loncaric, Loncarek, Loncarevic, Loncaricek and Loncarec. The “c” in Loncar is pronounced ch. All are from the root Loncar.
Loncar-Loncaric will never die out in Croatia. There are 1000’s in all parts of Croatia and a great number came to America at the turn of the century.
Arms were granted in Vienna on January 2, 1747 to George and his son John Loncarich. Arms are registered and on file in the Zagreb, Croatia Archives.
Verticle lines are red; slanted left, green; dots, gold; and white is silver.
(Courtesy of the Croatian Genealogical and Heraldic Society, 2527 San Carlos Ave., San Carlos, California, 94070. Phone: 650-592-1190; E-Mail croatians@aol.com; Web www.croatians.com. Adam S. Eterovich.)…
ears of my research going nowhere! The Great Aunts who really didn't support my desire to "dig-up" family history, had given me the wrong surnames to follow!
When I finally sat with my cousin Elbert STRINGER, he was able to share with me a few brief [but accurate] childhood memories that have since grown into being www.OurGeorgiaRoots.com.
Literally, I had three sentences of information when I got my REAL start!:-)
So all this is to say - be encouraged dear!
When the Ancestors "choose" you to tell their stories, they have a way of equipping you with the information you need. Trust me on this!:-)
You have technology, a calling & a community of seasoned researchers to support you along the way!
Luckie.
CHASTITY said:I just wanted to say after reading the forum and topic for his discussion group the thing that bothers me still to this day: ok, my grandmother told me stories of my great grandmother and they were fine stories....But when I would ask about my grea-great grandmother she could only tell me she was too young to remember much but the young woman never had a name , or my granny just didn't remember for her being a child herself, but the lady's name was simply Mamie. Why? My granny said all she knew was that Mamie was a slave. I guess I will probably never find info on her, huh? Anyhow that's what's bugging me!
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m Henry Belchamber had settled in Quebec and had married there in 1906 to a Marie Therrien daughter of Louis Henri Therrien and Edwidge Chausse.
William and Marie had five children of only two seem to have survived into adulthood,they are
i. Louis Henri Belchamber was born on 12 Apr 1906 in Bedford,Comte Missisquoi,Qeubec,Canada. He died on 30 Dec 1968 in Ste-Martine,Comte Chateauguay.
ii. On April 24, 1928 Louis Belchamber son of William and Marie THERRIEN
married Germaine LATOUR, daughter of Alexis LATOUR and Charlotte LAPIERRE.
St-Paul Montreal
iii. Ronald Vibert Belchamber s/o Louis & Germaine Latour mar.1971-03-06
Notre-Dame, Lery, Chateauguay, Diane Chiasson d/o Wilbrod &
Adrienne Groleau
iv. Bruce Belchamber s/o Louis & Germaine Latour mar. 1955-06-18
Notre-Dame-du-Sacré-Coeur, Ville Lasalle, Ile-de-Montréal, Debise
Menard d/o Henri & Lea Daignault
and Cecile Blanche Clara Belchamber was born on 26 Jul 1913 in St.Jean Sur Richelieu,Quebec.
Cecile had a child: father unknown, Joseph Gaetan Belchamber, b 14 Apr
1935, bp same day: Montréal Aide à la Femme 1935
Marie Belchamber nee Therrien must have died
William Henry married again in 1918 to
Marie Alice Marguerite Guillet daughter of Philias Guillette and Alphonsine Rheaume.
Do any of these people ring any bells with anyone?
Look forward to hearing from you
TIA John…
you, I joined Genealogy Wise in the hope of crossing paths with other Gruett researchers but, alas, I seem to be alone in my search for my elusive GG grandmother. I am wondering if you have ever come across any records of Harriet Gruett, born in the Home District of Upper Canada in 1826 to James and Margaret Gruett. Apart from her two marriages, to Barzillai Nash, Bronte ON, 1848, and John Lawrence, Wentworth ON, 1886, I can find no records of her under her maiden name. Having spent the better part of a year researching the Gruett (or Grouette, Grewette, Gruitt, Goroite etc) surname in Ontario, Manitoba, Quebec, Michigan and Ohio, I am convinced that Harriet was the daughter of James Gruett 1895 (or 1887), and the sister of James 1810 and Peter 1814. Just last night I found a footnote in Edward R. Baierlein's book "In the wilderness with the Red Indians: German missionary to the Michigan ..." that mentions that James and Peter had a sister. I also found a highly unflattering description of James, but I digress. Getting back to my search for my GG grandmother, I believe I may have accidentally solved a mystery in the Gruett line. James Jr.'s wife's name is always recorded as unknown but Harriet's second marriage record states her name as Margaret. Of course I can find no records of her either! I would be grateful for any assistance or tips you can offer. Many thanks, Wendy Moore, Toronto ON wendyem@gmail.com…
ing the parents of Daniell READE born about 1650 and mainly being of Emberton. He married Sarah HOOTON in 1682 at Gayhurst and I thought I would research the HOOTONs in an effort to find some HOOTON Wills that might just give a clue to relationships with the READE family.
Daniell READE's son also called Daniel born about 1687 had several children at Hardmead starting in 1727. He married Rebeka but I don't know where yet, nor what her maiden name was. Daniel and Rebeka named one of their sons Lavender READ and I know that LAVENDER is a not so common surname in Bucks, so was wondering if just maybe Rebeka was a LAVENDER? So I have been looking for a READ/LAVENDER marriage but not found one. I have found that there seems to be only the one LAVENDER READ, which makes him a little different from all the Williams, Johns, Roberts and so on that litter my READ ancestors!!
I have also been trying to find LAVENDER Wills, but haven't come across anything that looks anywhere near helpful.
So, if anyone is researching HOOTON, LAVENDER or READ (and any variant spellings of those names) or knows anything about the families at Emberton and Hardmead, I would love to hear from you. I am clutching at straws really, but still extremely interesting nontheless!!
Kind regards,
Christine Read…
at-grandson, Parlan, in turn became the name-founder of the clan. From his son, Malcolm, onwards the surname MacFarlane became fixed. There are instances of a cadet taking his father's Christian name as surname, such as MacAllan (son of Allan MacFarlane) and Thomson or Thomason (son of Thomas MacFarlane). Many of the rank and file of the clan took other names designating their vocation, such as Stalker and Miller, while others adopted names from motives of prudence when the clan came into conflict with the authorities. As a result clan Macfarlane has many associated Sept surnames and some bearing these names were originally Macfarlanes. From the ancestral lands of Arrochar the Macfarlanes spread throughout the Highlands and to Northern Ireland. Today Macfarlanes are found around the world.
MacFarlanes world-wide are needed to take part in a study of the Y-chromosome which only males carry. [But please see paragraphs 4 and 5 below.] Given the nature of Scottish clans all MacFarlane [however spelt] males and all males bearing any of the Sept surnames of the clan are urged to take part in this important project. It is hoped that the results will reveal the genealogical ties between the chiefs, their cadet houses and the various septs.
The MacFarlane Project aims to find out what DNA says about our ancestry. Who are we and where did we come from? We know that our clan chiefs descended from the earls of Lennox but can we confirm that the earls and their ancestors the mormaers of Lennox descended from the kings of Munster? Do all those with the surname MacFarlane, any variant, have a common ancestor? Can we identify cadet houses? Which associated Septs were originally Macfarlanes? DNA testing will help us find the answers to these questions and more.
Our host lab FamilyTreeDNA.com has the world’s largest yDNA (direct male line ancestry) and mtDNA (direct female line ancestry) database and tests more yDNA markers and mtDNA markers than any other lab in the world, and now they also offer the new autosomal block DNA testing. What is autosomal block DNA? It is the DNA found in blocks between the yDNA of your direct male line and the mtDNA of your direct female line, so now any male can test for the full range of his DNA and any female can do the same! Autosomal block testing will enhance DNA evaluations and provide additional insight into the relationships between individuals with any DNA match (yDNA or mtDNA) up to 10 generations back thus better defining branches in a family tree.
Because of the new Family Finder DNA test ($289.00 USD) we can now accept anyone who descends from a MacFarlane (of any variant spelling) or someone with a Sept surname (any variant) within ten generations; this overides the old limitation to participation by males only bearing these surnames. Please check the list below to see if you find your surname there. To participate meaningfully in this project, you will need to share your ancestry back to the earliest known MacFarlane/etc. in the form of a pedigree chart, family group sheets, or a GEDCOM file. You do not need to be a member of any of the clan Macfarlane societies in the world to participate, although you may wish to make such an association in order to meet many more of your probable kin.
Project Surnames
Allan, Allanach, Allanson, Allison, Arrell, Arrol, Barclay (in Ulster), Bart, Bartholomew, Bartie, Bartson, Brice, Bryce, Caa, Callander, Caw, Condey, Condeyie, Condy, Cunnison, Galloway (in Stirling), Grassick (in Montrose), Grassie (in Aberdeen), Greusaich, Griesch (in Aberdeen), Gruamach, Kennson, Kinnieson, Kinnison, Knox, Leaper, Lechie, Lennox, MacAindra, MacAllan, MacAllen, MacAndrew, MacAndro (in Dunbarton), MacCaa, MacCause, MacCaw, MacCondey, MacCondeyie, MacCondy, MacEach, MacEachern, MacEoin, MacErrachar, MacErracher, MacFarlan, MacFarland, MacFarlane, MacFarquahar, MacGaw, MacGeoch, MacGilchrist, MacGreusach, MacGreusich, MacInally, MacInnes, MacInnis, MacInstalker, MacIock, MacJames, MacJock, MacKindlay, MacKinlay, MacNair, MacNaiyer, MacNayer, MacNeur, MacNider, MacNiter, MacNoyer, MacNuyer, MacRobb, MacWalter, MacWilliam, McFarlan, McFarland, McFarlane, Michie, Millar, Miller (in Dunbarton), Monach, Monachock, Nacfaire (in France), Parlan, Robb, Smith (in Dunbarton), Spruell, Stalker, Thomason, Thomson, Weaver, Webster, Weir, Williams, Williamson, Wilson, Wylie, Wyllie.
Please use the link below to learn more: www.familytreedna.com/public/MacFarlane
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llent step-by-step guide to entering results is great. I've downloaded it for future reference.
While I know that, in general, haplogroups may not be very significant, in my short experience with genetic genealogy testing, I have, or know of, three folk whose final group is so rare as to be meaningful in a genealogic time frame. This includes me as it lead me to a previously unknown cousin from an unexpected branch of the family. And I know of two others, whose group either proved or disproved closely held family secrets or beliefs. So haplogroups do have genealogic significance, and I'll head off to GENETREE for further help.
Joan
Ugo A. Perego said:With regards of your two questions:
1. FTDNA recently changed the way they report the deletion of minisatellite CA at location 522-523. SMGF still reports that same deletion as two events 523d and 524d. You should try entering your FTDNA results to search the SMGF database using 523d and 523d instead of 522- and 523-. Let me know if it works.
2. SMGF does not report haplogroup information as they are not relevant for matching purposes in the two databases currently available on their website. However, SMGF has provided www.GENETREE.com with all the tools and information about haplogroups (descriptions, distribution, predictions, world migrations, world phylogenetic trees, etc.). All you have to do is to create a free account with www.GENETREE.com and upload your mtDNA data from FTDNA. Remember to use 523d and 524d for the double deletion. You will be able to enjoy a number of tools to help you understand your mtDNA haplotype.
Joan Foster said:To start my discussion, I have two questions I hope someone can answer: 1. I tested mtDNA with both FTDNA and SMGF (about two years ago). I cannot seem to find my SMGF results on its page. (Probably I just don't know how....) If I input FTDNA's results I am there, pedigree and all. Two purple non-matches show up in the area of FTDNA's 522- and 523- even for my own pedigree result, and I cannot find myself with fewer than those two "mismatches." I don't know how to input anything that will show SMGF's own results. A search on my surname(s) brings up the pedigree record I submitted, but all the squares are purple mismatches. The pedigree is mine and there are no matches, whereas the other search inputting FTDNA's results shows a few with those "minus-2" matches. I hope they are actually matches and that SMGF's nomenclature for these markers is just different. If I could find SMGF's markers, or nomenclature for their markers, maybe I could be sure.
2. Where on SMGF's pages is the haplogroup of the submitted result displayed? I've searched around with the difficulty noted above, but nowhere do I find where the haplogroup of my sample (or my minus-2 matches) is shown.
According to FTDNA I am:
HVR1: 16287T
HVR2: 73G, 146C, 263G, 315.1C, 522-, 523-
Haplogroup H4 (relatively quite rare, I believe)
I must really be missing something with my exploration of SMGF's pages. Any help out there?
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d a number of fully indexed electronic .pdf files on each. My goal is to distribute this information as widely as possible among the various branches of the family, so it is not lost to future descendants after we're all long gone. These e-documents, ranging from a few hundred to several thousand descendants in each, contain any descendants of that ancestral family (whether they carry that family surname or not) who appear in my 525,000+ person family master file.
Current editions of these e-documents are free to request, use, copy, and share with anyone interested. If you'd like copies of any of these, contact me by email at: paul@lareau.org , give me an email address where you want them sent, and I will send them to you via "WeTransfer", a computer-safe app for transferring electronic files too large to attach to an email. One warning, .pdf files must be downloaded onto a regular PC, as most mobile devices cannot read them. Also, no guarantees. These are not complete, comprehensive, genealogies of these families, they are simply those descendants of these particular ancestral familes that happen to be connected, so far, to my own genealogy.
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