Can you date this train wreck?

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Permalink Reply by Scott Norton on August 2, 2009 at 9:33am

The location would be easier to find. A trestle over a mostly dry river has collapsed here. I suspect there is water to the right of the picture. That's quite a span. This should rule out a lot of Kentucky.

Search the KY newspapers for bridge collapse.

Scott

Permalink Reply by Sherry Hightower on August 2, 2009 at 10:58am

I did find an article but not sure if it is this one:
Louisville, KY Bridge Collapse, Dec 1893

A BIG BRIDGE COLLAPSES

A Span Falls With Fatal Effect At Louisville

The False Work and Iron Superstructure Give Way - Many Workmen Pinned to the Bottom of the River by Huge Iron Girders -“ Hunt for the Dead and Injured.

A dispatch from Louisville, Ky., says:
The bridge which is being built across the Ohio River between this city and Jeffersonville has added another long list of victims to the fatalaties [sic] which have marked every step of its progress.
Forty-five men were carried down by the giving way of the second channel span at 10:20 o'clock a. m. That night at 8 o'clock another span fell, being blown down by a sharp wind storm. The night watchman and several workmen were on the span.
Of the men on the bridge when it fell seven bodies have been recovered. Fourteen men were more or less seriously injured, fourteen are almost certainly known to be in the water and ten who are unaccounted for may be dead or may have escaped.
The cause of the disaster cannot be definitely stated, but there seems little doubt that the bridge builders were guilty of taking terrible risk. Workmen say the false work under the span had been settling for three days and that the company was straining every nerve to complete the span before it should fall.
A high wind sprang up and caused the weak structure to give way. The bridge people say the wind alone was to blame, and that the breaking of the span was caused by the toppling over of the great platform called the "traveler." The traveler is a great mass of framework, seventy feet high by twenty wide, and forty long.
It is moved on a track on the bridge, and has no other supports. When the wind sprang up the great timbers began rocking, each vibration weakening the frame false work until it gave way at last.
The first crash, when the centre bent gave way was at 10:25, and then it was that the great number of fatalities occurred. A few minutes later a bent, on which there was but little of the bridge proper, gave way on the Indiana side. In this it is believed that but one man was killed.
He was caught by a rope and dragged beneath the water. The crash attracted the attention of those on the shore, and many turned away their eyes as they saw the men struggling in mid-air in their mad efforts to climb out of danger.
When the huge mass of material struck the water, all was concealed for an instant by the spray that was thrown high into the air. As the water subsided, here and there could be seen men struggling desperately to climb upon the timbers that thrust their ends above the water.
A few succeeded in clinging to places of safety, and were quickly rescued by boats that put out from the shore. Others struggled desperately, and were carried off by the current to sink almost as rescue was at hand. The wounded were soon removed to places of safety, and as quickly as possible a tugboat was chartered and put to work removing the debris.
When the end slipped the whole work trembled, and the men, realizing their danger, started for the piers. The central bent was the first to give way, and the men on this bent went down to be covered by the mass of iron and timber of the other bents, which fell almost immediately, carrying with them the other workmen who failed to reach places of safety on the piers. The north bent, or the one attached to the Indiana pier, did not fall for fifteen minutes after the other parts went down. There were forty-eight men on the bridge when the alarm was given by the engineer in charge of the work. Of those that went down, some were covered by amass of timber, from beneath which it will be days before their bodies are recovered.
The bridge was a cantilever of five spans. The shore spans, one on each side, were 200 feet each in length, and are completed. There are three channel spans, two of 550 feet each and one of 553 feet. One of the 550 foot spans has not been begun, and it was one of the 553 foot which fell during the morning. The other fell at night.
The first one which fell would have been completed that day. A great deal has been said about the false work being poorly constructed.
The false work of the bridge was braced by the timbers six by ten resting on piling sixty feet long, of which forty feet was without bracing.
The piling has been in the water a long time and was doubtless faulty. Only a few connecting links remained to be fixed to complete the span when the supporting structure gave way.

The Cranbury Press New Jersey 1893-12-22

Permalink Reply by Sue McCormick on August 2, 2009 at 7:22pm

I doubt that this is your bridge. The article describes a bridge under construction. This bridge cleanly shows a train in the picture which would be unusual (but not impossible) for a bridge under construction.

Sue

Permalink Reply by Sherry Hightower on August 2, 2009 at 8:00pm

No..I am NOT saying it is the one that goes with the photo...only that I found A "bridge collapse" as suggested by Scott.

Permalink Reply by stephen mccallister on August 3, 2009 at 9:53am

I believe the bridge in question is what came to be known as the Big 4 Bridge. It was rebuilt and is still there, minus the approaches on either end.

Permalink Reply by Sherry Hightower on August 3, 2009 at 10:16am

Stephen,

Exactly where is this?

A great many of my KY ancestors lived in Breckinridge Co.,--Harned, Garfield, McQuady, Hardinsburg, Irvington, Custer...,

Lebanon Junction, Bullet Co.,

Magoffin Co,

Mercer Co.,

Morgan Co.,

Also they lived in Lousiville, Breckenridge, and several more before going to Texas.

Thanks!

Permalink Reply by stephen mccallister on August 6, 2009 at 3:40pm

Sorry about the confusion. The bridge that collapsed in Louisville KY (see the article transcribed above) was I think, the big 4 bridge. The bridge collapse in the picture at the start of this string, I have no idea where it is from.

Permalink Reply by Sherry Hightower on August 6, 2009 at 4:43pm

LOL!! Got it. I know it is Kentucky and I think it is the late 1890s but I will have to dig out the other larger photos and see if there is anything on the back.

Thanks

Permalink Reply by Gary D Powell on August 9, 2009 at 6:33pm

Just a wild guess, probably around 1880-1910

Permalink Reply by Randall Brennan on August 22, 2009 at 1:02pm

Are your pictures clear enough to read what is written on the sides of the cars? Possibly a RR name, which would be a google-able clue.

Permalink Reply by stephen mccallister on August 22, 2009 at 1:25pm

I tried blowing it up in photoshop here....and couldn;t read anything. Maybe someone else will have more luck

Permalink Reply by Anne on August 22, 2009 at 5:22pm

It wouldn't be helpful. The only visible text is "baggage" on the side of the baggage cars.

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