A Loyalist Family Abandoned in the Wilderness

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Permalink Reply by Lisa B. Lee on July 31, 2009 at 11:51am

Lorine;

A fascinating story. Thanks for sharing it with us. I'm new to GenealogyWise, just created a group for "Got Genealogy?" (I sent you a tote bag last year), still trying to figure out what I'm supposed to be doing with this group. I'm a bit clueless when it comes to social networking.
... sigh.

- Lisa, Oakland, CA

Permalink Reply by Lorine McGinnis Schulze on July 31, 2009 at 2:01pm

Hi Lisa! I use your tote bag quite a bit! It's great :-)

You can set your group Got Genealogy up as a Fan Page (for friends of your website) and just post updates or news you want to share, or you can create topics and try to encourage discussion among members. Take a look around at some of the groups to get an idea of how they are run.

Permalink Reply by Mina Patricia Grant on August 26, 2009 at 10:57am

We are having a difficult time with our William GALLOP. He left ship in the Lamaline Roads, in Newfoundland, and walked to Fortune. He later married Mary Kearley. Their first child born 1795 named Mary Anne. Others were Elizabeth, Susan, Grace, Ann, William Jane and Benjamin. William Joshua a common combination for several generations.
Was William from the New Brunswick line connected to John Gallop of 1630 in Dorchester, MA. who's descendants left the US. for Canada? Was he connected to Dorset or Sussex GALLOP's? How was he connected to The William GALLOP from Dorset who was in Newfoundland in 1835 and connected to Newman and Co.?
Hope you may have some clues for me
Pat, in Michigan

Permalink Reply by john armstrong on December 13, 2009 at 8:16pm

do you have alist of the loyalist from new york to canada?

Permalink Reply by Lorine McGinnis Schulze on December 14, 2009 at 6:54am

John - No one list of Loyalists can be considered "the" List. There is no simple definitive and accurate list. You must consult them all, from the Old UEL list to Reid's book to all the variant lists made.

After 1796 the Executive Council kept a list of Loyalists based on District Rolls. This became the Executive Council UE List and contains about 3,500 names. It is not considered a complete list, but it is considered more accurate than the Crown Lands (Old UEL) list.

The Crown Lands Dept. created a second list, based on other records. This became the Old UEL List and contains approximately 6,000 names, but not all qualified.

When searching Loyalists you also need to consult pay lists, muster rolls, and the land records. For a good
reference to what is available, see Brenda Dougall Merriman's book "Genealogy in Ontario: Searching the Records" Look under Brenda's chapter on Loyalists.

For more help, and links to online Loyalist databases, see FINDING A LOYALIST ANCESTOR

Permalink Reply by brenda merriman on December 14, 2009 at 10:17pm

Lorine, since you mentioned my name, probably more to the point would be my book United Empire Loyalists: A Guide to Tracing Loyalist Ancestors in Upper Canada (Global Heritage Press, 2006).
Cheers,
Brenda

Permalink Reply by Lorine McGinnis Schulze on December 15, 2009 at 6:58am

Brenda - Mea culpa!! Your Loyalist book would of course be even more beneficial to researchers. Thanks for reminding me, I don't know where my head was when I wrote my first note. Lorine

Permalink Reply by James Alfred Locke Miller Jr. on March 13, 2010 at 9:51am

The distance of time makes this Loyalist story emotionally easier to read; yet causes me to reflect on mankind's inhumanity to one another even now; because of "wrong" religion, race or ethnic group, social-economic class, or simply because you have something I want, and I have the power to take it: be this done on an individual thug in the street, or organized pro-thug, or anti-thug, nationalistic scale.

I've never been able to comprehend the seemingly opposite positions of the American Revolutionary War, North Carolina up-state Scot Loyalist in America favoring H. M. the King here; yet earlier as banished ex-Jacobites, they had fought for their freedom in Scotland against the (same?) King? A seeming conflict in loyalties?

My Loyalist ancestors were Capt. Philip Yonge, H. M. Surveyor-General of Georgia, who'd married Christian Mackenzie, the daughter of Capt. Wm. Mackenzie, in 1775 H. M. Comptroller and Collector of Customs, Sunbury, Georgia. His brother George, Third Earl Cromartie, of Cromarty, Scotland, had been attainted in the Scot Jacobite Rebellion against the Crown. George's life spared because his wife had "pled her belly" (pregnancy) for H. M. mercy. George's daughter Lady Mary had wed several prominent Georgians; one Middleton, Patriot, who I believe appears on the obverse of the United States two-dollar bill. But which man is he?

Philip's brother was Loyalist Maj. Henry Yonge, Jr., H. M. Attorney-General of British East Florida, who as such, annulled the indentures of 1,000 wrongfully enslaved New Smyrna Beach, Florida, Menorcans; and with Philip commanded a company of them at St. Augustine, Florida. Henry Jr's plantation is now Ormond, Florida; it's Public Library on Yonge Street (there is another Yonge Street (different Yonges) in Canada).

Their father, the Hon. Henry Yonge, Sr., Loyalist, was H. M. Surveyor-General of Georgia, and was the son of the Hon. Francis Yonge, Lords Proprietors Surveyor-General of the Bahamas, Carolinas, and Georgia; and earlier at Lisborn, Portugal, H. M. Commissioner of Ordnance for the fortification of Gibraltar. These were the Army Yonges of Cayton Manor, Salop, Shropshire, England. The Navy Yonge family was of Portsmouth, England. Philip and Henry Jr.'s mother, Elizabeth Bellinger, was the grandchild of the Surveyor-General of South Carolina, Judge in Admiralty, Capt. Edmund Bellinger, Sr., who as master of the "Blake" brought the first cattle to South Carolina; and 1698 was created Landgrave of Tombodly and Ashepoo Baronies, S.C. In his Loyalist Claims in England (via British East Florida, then British Bahamas), Henry Sr. called his first wife Christiana Bulloch (she partook most of his Loyalist sequested estates) "a Rebel"; she being the sister of Patriot Governor Archie Bulloch of Georgia.

As I thought Canada's charter to the United Empire Loyalist specified that qualified Loyalist had to have remained Loyal to H. M. and fled to Englished Controlled Territory (Henry Sr. fled and died in England itself, which I presumed "English Controlled Territory"); I applied to join on Henry's Loyalism and compliance with Canada's chartered terms to the U.E.L.; but Henry's Loyality was rejected by the U.E.L. as England was not, English Controlled Territory? The Yonges published banishment from Georgia had been "upon pain of death" should the return--but that was not good enough for the U.D.C.'s charter's rules.