Hi Susan, cannot remember if I commented on Big Mike but he and Honora Donovan are our family, and one of his sons, Denis, came as a complete surprise to us all as we thought John was the eldest, and it stunned John's granddaughters! (Your post in Agust 2010).
Your April 2011 post, we haven't been able yet to get anything on Margaret born 1840s but the www.irishgenealogy.ie website will have the rest of the Cork records up by the end of September we hear, including Kilmacabea, not that it will necessarily help.... The interesting thing about this site is it posts the pdf of the actual page in some cases, and by changing the page number in the browser bar you can go through the pages in the registers yourself. Part of the problem with Cahalanes is that there were a number of families where they lived in the same location but were cousins, so my grandmother Mary Cahalane did not go to the US, as did two sisters Nora and Helena, but a first cosin born the same year and also living in Clounkeen, did! The ships manifest shows their fathers as being different. BTW Helena disappeared, and if you get anything on her it wuld be apprevciated. SHe may have become Helen and married a THomas Cahalane, but we are not sure. My mother says she had no Aunt Helena, although her own sister was named Helena, and another cousin says there was something about some rift or some reason for not mentioning her name.... which could be total exaggeration but we don't know what happened other than she and Ha(nora) Nora went to the USA in 1910
I just received a book in the mail called "Reminiscences from Drimoleague" which I have been pouring over. There is an article in here by a Jim Collins who reflects on the town in the 30's and 40's and references many familiar names. There is a reference to a Tim Collins Grocery and Drapery store as well as an interesting photo of the place; there is another photo of the home of Jim Collins. There are lists including one called Guy's Postal Directory of 1914, the Griffith's Valuation of 1853, and a series of Main Street residences from 1911, 1940, 1970, and 2008. In the midst of the names is a J. Hourihane, grocer & car owner. There are more Collins, several McCarthy's, Forbes, Beamish and Kingston. There are a couple of articles by a Vincent (Vin) Forbes which is a name I have encountered on the web. Let me know if any of this info would be helpful.
I recently made the acquaintance of a Forbes descendant from 1 of the 5 known branches from the area; she and her sister will be visiting the area in late June in search of information. Any suggestions you might have to make this trip helpful would certainly be welcome as she is asking.
Your diligence is fantastic! Will need to spend time on your site as you have links and information I haven't seen before. I have been to www.bandon-genealogy and the western cork genealogy site but not the others. The Haggarty, Hegarty, Haggertie spelling probably all represent the same family so I guess we are related in some way even though we also both have DNA markers not usually found in Ireland. My mother was descended from Burke, Duan, McCarthy so there are many McCarthy's in the history too. Yes, the site I mentioned is accessible via Ancestry; I guess I like its tidyness compared to other listings.
Your surname sweep project via the tithe applotment information for Cork seems both a promise and a challenge. I think your energy will be an inspiration to pick up the shards I've gathered and try to make some sense out of it. In trying to pick up more of the context, I found this book helpful: IRELAND AND IRISH IMMIGRATION TO THE NEW WORLD FROM 1815 TO THE FAMINE, by William Forbes Adams. Adams was a professor at UCLA. Don't know his connection (if any) to my family.
Will try to keep in more regular contact. Best wishes, Eric
It has been awhile, but I've made a few discoveries here and there. Not much movement on my DNA efforts, however. I did discover this wonderful source called The Irish Records Extraction Database. At this site, you can find marriage dates and spouse names. It was great for me as I found the names of Webb, Fuller and Wolfe who married a Forbes from Cork-Ross about the same time as my GGG grandfather George married Sarah Haggartie. It seems most likely that these were brothers of George; the names Webb Fuller and Wolfe were all American emigrants about same time. Thought I would share. Hope all is well -- best wishes. Eric P.S. If you don't have access to this database, I could look up a few names for you.
Thank you very much for posting the new info on the Titheapplotment pages for Aghadown. I too have beeen searching this sw Cork area- Roaringwaters Bay area. My names that I'm following are Regan, Driscoll, Minihane, Goslins from Sherkin Island, and Gosnells. I too understand your many frustrations in seaching this small area, and there is very little help from the Irish and Ireland. Please get in touch with me.
Hi Susan - Thanks for responding to my "Why I Can't Find My Ancestors" on the Forum. I think the same thing could be said for "James Byrne or Burns" as for your John Collins. My grgrandfather was James Byrne and served in the Civil War. There were 210 men by the name James Byrne or Burns in the Union Army.
James had a daughter Cecilia who was born in 1872 in Worchester MA who married a John Collins. One of yours perhaps. I see you also listed Driscoll. James had a son Thomas Burns who married an Ann Driscoll. Her father's name was Corneilius. All of these people lived in the Syracuse NY area. John and Cecelia and Thomas and Ann are buried in Cazenovia NY. Any of yours?
susan was it you who asked about bridget cahalane? My husband says he has been checking microfilm for cahalanes, and bridget married michael hurley on may 25 1839 in leap church kilmacabea, witnesses r.bryan and kate sheehan. Ann (My mother's mother was Cahalane)
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Your April 2011 post, we haven't been able yet to get anything on Margaret born 1840s but the www.irishgenealogy.ie website will have the rest of the Cork records up by the end of September we hear, including Kilmacabea, not that it will necessarily help.... The interesting thing about this site is it posts the pdf of the actual page in some cases, and by changing the page number in the browser bar you can go through the pages in the registers yourself. Part of the problem with Cahalanes is that there were a number of families where they lived in the same location but were cousins, so my grandmother Mary Cahalane did not go to the US, as did two sisters Nora and Helena, but a first cosin born the same year and also living in Clounkeen, did! The ships manifest shows their fathers as being different. BTW Helena disappeared, and if you get anything on her it wuld be apprevciated. SHe may have become Helen and married a THomas Cahalane, but we are not sure. My mother says she had no Aunt Helena, although her own sister was named Helena, and another cousin says there was something about some rift or some reason for not mentioning her name.... which could be total exaggeration but we don't know what happened other than she and Ha(nora) Nora went to the USA in 1910
Susan,
I just received a book in the mail called "Reminiscences from Drimoleague" which I have been pouring over. There is an article in here by a Jim Collins who reflects on the town in the 30's and 40's and references many familiar names. There is a reference to a Tim Collins Grocery and Drapery store as well as an interesting photo of the place; there is another photo of the home of Jim Collins. There are lists including one called Guy's Postal Directory of 1914, the Griffith's Valuation of 1853, and a series of Main Street residences from 1911, 1940, 1970, and 2008. In the midst of the names is a J. Hourihane, grocer & car owner. There are more Collins, several McCarthy's, Forbes, Beamish and Kingston. There are a couple of articles by a Vincent (Vin) Forbes which is a name I have encountered on the web. Let me know if any of this info would be helpful.
I recently made the acquaintance of a Forbes descendant from 1 of the 5 known branches from the area; she and her sister will be visiting the area in late June in search of information. Any suggestions you might have to make this trip helpful would certainly be welcome as she is asking.
Best, E
Susan,
Hope you received the other websites I sent earlier. I just came across this site,
www.drimoleague.com which has a nice genealogy page. There are inquiries there
for a John Hourihane & Mary Keane as well as a couple of inquiries regarding the
Collins family. Thought it best to share this thread in case it is helpful. I think I
will adopt "Drim Boy" as my new moniker.
Best wishes, Eric
Susan,
Your diligence is fantastic! Will need to spend time on your site as you have links and information I haven't seen before. I have been to www.bandon-genealogy and the western cork genealogy site but not the others. The Haggarty, Hegarty, Haggertie spelling probably all represent the same family so I guess we are related in some way even though we also both have DNA markers not usually found in Ireland. My mother was descended from Burke, Duan, McCarthy so there are many McCarthy's in the history too. Yes, the site I mentioned is accessible via Ancestry; I guess I like its tidyness compared to other listings.
Your surname sweep project via the tithe applotment information for Cork seems both a promise and a challenge. I think your energy will be an inspiration to pick up the shards I've gathered and try to make some sense out of it. In trying to pick up more of the context, I found this book helpful: IRELAND AND IRISH IMMIGRATION TO THE NEW WORLD FROM 1815 TO THE FAMINE, by William Forbes Adams. Adams was a professor at UCLA. Don't know his connection (if any) to my family.
Will try to keep in more regular contact. Best wishes, Eric
Susan,
It has been awhile, but I've made a few discoveries here and there. Not much movement on my DNA efforts, however. I did discover this wonderful source called The Irish Records Extraction Database. At this site, you can find marriage dates and spouse names. It was great for me as I found the names of Webb, Fuller and Wolfe who married a Forbes from Cork-Ross about the same time as my GGG grandfather George married Sarah Haggartie. It seems most likely that these were brothers of George; the names Webb Fuller and Wolfe were all American emigrants about same time. Thought I would share. Hope all is well -- best wishes. Eric P.S. If you don't have access to this database, I could look up a few names for you.
Hi Susan,
Thank you very much for posting the new info on the Titheapplotment pages for Aghadown. I too have beeen searching this sw Cork area- Roaringwaters Bay area. My names that I'm following are Regan, Driscoll, Minihane, Goslins from Sherkin Island, and Gosnells. I too understand your many frustrations in seaching this small area, and there is very little help from the Irish and Ireland. Please get in touch with me.
Dianne Reagan
James had a daughter Cecilia who was born in 1872 in Worchester MA who married a John Collins. One of yours perhaps. I see you also listed Driscoll. James had a son Thomas Burns who married an Ann Driscoll. Her father's name was Corneilius. All of these people lived in the Syracuse NY area. John and Cecelia and Thomas and Ann are buried in Cazenovia NY. Any of yours?
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