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What surnames are you interested in researching?
Lightowler and spelling variants
What countries and other locations are you interested in researching?
England, Yorkshire, Lancashire and worldwide
What is your level of genealogy knowledge?
Advanced Family History Researcher

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At 8:40pm on February 10, 2012, scott william roy lightowlers said…

wow, that was a lot of good stuff. thanks.

as far as stingers are concerned, i can only imagine what they are, but despite the international reputation of our mounties, canada isn't as horse dependent as you might imagine.  as far as caltraps go you might be interested to know that i actually heard the term used today on an animated series called archer.  they were more of the james bond type that are dropped from the rear of an aston marin, or in this case dodge challenger. though.

if you do start a caltrap company is suggest the name:  lightowlers' caltraps and sundry horse maimers inc.

as you can probably tell, i would never make a good genealogist myself as my imagination tends to wander  towards the romantic.  no chance lightowlers is roman? lytollis has a sort of latin feel don't you think?  i appreciate your more pragmatic approach none the less.  living in bc for half my life, i've come to learn that every pioneering family thinks that they have at least one remittance man in their family, so it was worth a shot.

there has been talk on the net of a scholar that actually did a study of the name, do you have access to that?  also, as i've never visited the olde homeland, is there a documentary (timeteam?) or film you could suggest that would give me an impression of the land and landscape?  and again also, where is the famous stained glass with our shield located?  i have a friend who is a travel writer (born in st. albans) and he thinks it would make an interesting piece.

thanks again for your prompt and courteous insight

scott

At 2:49pm on February 7, 2012, scott william roy lightowlers said…

yes miss wanda is my father's cousin (?) what are your thoughts on the earliest records including the very norman "de" to litholles?  could the name be norman? if that's the case, looking around on the mainland might provide some insight.

regarding holdsworth, there is a very complete history of the industrialist family holdsworth from halifax, and it got me to thinking.  holdsworth was married twice, which would be unusual if he wasn't a widower.  the holdsworth's had serious fabric manufacturing concerns and my grand father horace, son of holdsworth and his second wife bertha (i think) spent his entire career in gault ontario as the head technician/engineer of a large clothing mill.  he was uneducated, but he was very adept at that particular job.  in fact, he immigrated to canada, years after his father left for america.  it seems probable that he had an extensive exposure to the technology while he was in britain, and that could come as a result of a familiar connection with a large manufacturing concern such as the holdsworth's.

he may not have been a direct relation, but if holdsworth was a black sheep, maybe he was given an opportunity that he otherwise wouldn't have had.  i think holdsworth's mother's name was sarah ellen holdsworth, so that could be the link.  horace was requested to run the mill in ontario at a very tender age, maybe his father was a "remittance man."

also, what's with the caltraps?  they must have been the land mines of the chivalric age, in other words, not very chivalrous.  probably the exact opposite actually. dastardly?  

thanks for getting back to me,

enjoy your time zone,

scott william roy lightowlers, Esq

 
 
 

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