Jerry Luckey Family

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Permalink Reply by Kate Steere on September 26, 2009 at 5:58am

Welcome! :)
Can you tell us a little more background on Jerry Luckey and his wife Martha? I've done a little preliminary searching and I'm not having success yet. It seems like they may have been in Louisiana in 1860, or on their way to Texas by then?

Permalink Reply by Khathu on September 26, 2009 at 6:51am

I have very little information on Jerry and Martha (Johnson) Luckey outside of family oral and the 1880 Federal Census. According to family oral history, they were initially owned by the Chambers who sold them to the Luckeys. In addition, they were the parents of sixteen (16) children - eight (8) boys and eight (8) girls. Unfortunately I have only been able to locate only six (6) children.

It appears that the family was in Cass County, Texas by 1874 because that when their children started getting married.

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on September 26, 2009 at 9:29am

Hi Khathu and Kate:

For the benefit or our other members, here's a Wiki for Cass County, Texas. You'll see that it it bordered to the east by Caddo Parrish, Louisiana, and to the northwest, by Miller County, Arkansas. Also, that from 1861 to a point in 1871, Cass County, Texas, was known as Davis County.

Also, here's the entry for Cass County, Texas from www.familyhistory101.com .

Finally, here is link to the Cass County, Texas, record groups reported in the FHL Catalog.

For the benefit of other members, attaching digital images of the 1880 U.S. Census, Cass County, Texas, for households of Jerry Luckey and Albert Lee. These are the images from which Khathu abstracted (TY) some of the the census data in the challenge. You'll have to flip to the second page of attached pdf to find entry for Jerry; last entry on the first page begins entry for neighboring Albert and Net Lee.

A few questions that I'll post separately. Box jumpy. --GJ

Attachments:

• Luckey, Jerry 1880 Cass Co, Texas.pdf, 4 MB

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on September 26, 2009 at 10:21am

Hi Khathu and Kate:

I've found several things that might be relevant if we knew a little more.

Khathu, which of Jerry's children was your ancestor?

P.S.
For the research log, as I don't know yet the information in these sources is relevant, but hoping we will learn more, I'm uploading 1900 U.S. Census, Cass County, Texas, one Walter Luckey ; reports he was b. Mar 1857 at LA/GA/LA.
Also uploading 1870 census, Greene County, Georgia (Pennfield, PO); household of a Jerry and Adline Luckey, also of a ?Charles and Martha Luckey who have dau. Jane.
I have a few other things, in the hope we'll learn of which chld Khathu descends.

Oops ... I see I mis-titled the second attached file; should read, "Luckey families, 1870 Greene County, Georgia..."

Attachments:

• Luckey, Walter, 1900 Cass County, Texas 4112122_413.pdf, 718 KB
• Lucky families, 1870 Greene County, GA 4263482_287.pdf, 1.9 MB

Permalink Reply by Khathu on September 26, 2009 at 3:47pm

Hello GeneJ,

My gg grandmother is Sarah Pauline Luckey daughter of Jerry and Martha (Johnson) Luckey. Sarah married Samuel Sampson on 9 Dec 1874 in Cass County, TX. In the 1880 Federal Census, she is listed as Polena. In the 1900 Census, she is living next door to her sister Jane (Luckey) Lewis who married Millard Lewis. There sister Nettie (Luckey) Lee is living in Morris County, Texas with her husband Albert (Buck) Lee and their children.

It appears that Walter, Jane, Sarah and Nettie Luckey were all born in LA where Jerry, Jr. and Ellen were born in Texas.

Attachments:

• Cass County, Texas 1900.jpg, 294 KB

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on October 2, 2009 at 5:50am

Hi Khathu and Kate:

Khathu wrote, "[Jerry and Martha (Johnson) Luckey were] the parents of sixteen (16) children - eight (8) boys and eight (8) girls. Unfortunately I have only been able to locate only six (6) children.

The more children in the family, the more opportunities we have to learn the family group timeline. I'm quite hopeful.

Had been working on a family group sheet to keep the notes and source organized. In the process, found a nice representation of the family at http://www.ourgreatness.tribalpages.com/ . Possibly this is your work?

Permalink Reply by Khathu on October 3, 2009 at 7:32am

Hello GeneJ,

Ourgreatness. tribalpages.com is my work. I do have death information on Jerry Luckey, Sr., Sarah Pauline (Luckey) Sampson and Nettie (Luckey) Lee. Jane (Luckey) lewis died after 1900 and Martha (Johnson) Luckey after 1880. I am not sure about Ellen and Jerry Luckey.

In the 1900 Census, Jane (Luckey) Lewis is listed as a widow and having six children in which 5 were still living.

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on October 2, 2009 at 1:21pm

Hi Khathu and Kate:

“Our Greatness” helps much; still hope you’ll upload/attach a FGS for us. I’ve sketched out some notes, attempting to surmise both what is known and what isn’t known. Ditto, from the later trying to picture what else we might learn if the missing pieces were found.

I’ve looked at items about all of the known children born to Jerry and Martha; some notes follow about those who seem Jerry and Martha’s eldest and youngest known children.

(1) Jane (Luckey) Lewis is represented at “Our Greatness” as eldest of Jerry and Martha's known children. As with some other family members, Jane's birth information may be more fluid than not (mostly because we haven't found that 1870 census which is the focus of your challenge). Doesn’t appear information about Jane has been located beyond the 1900 census.
“Our Greatness” reports as Jane’s son, John Lewis, born May 1872; reports he married Alberta Mack and had several children, but information about John Lewis’ death isn’t reported. The 1880 U.S. census for Millard and Jane Lewis reports son John Lewis, then ae 12 (b. ca1868, TX/AL/LA); John is then working on a farm. If there was but one such John Lewis and he was age 12 and working the farm at 1880 seems unlikely he is son of Millard and Jane (who are there reports ae 25 and 24 respectively).
If this John was otherwise, however, Jane’s son, then learning where he was born (city/county, etc.) would help to place Jane at about 1870; in the alternative, if this son John was born to Jane and Millard in 1872, knowing his birth location is still important for the same reasons (could also lead to locating marriage record of Jane and Millard; might show a different surname clue for Jane). While other sources might provide clues about John’s birth location, you might find that information on his death certificate, a possible WWI draft registration (if he served in the military, his enlistment papers would probably provide the details); his children’s marriage records.
As with some of the other children born to Jerry and Martha, learning more about Jane (for example, her death certificate, marriage certificates of her children) might provide a city/town/county location of her birth. Those documents might also provide other clues about names by which her father was known.

(2) Of the known children, we believe Ellen Luckey and Jerry Lucky, Jr. were born at Texas. Census of 1880 provides their births as 1862 and 1865, respectively. Appears from “Our Greatness” that you have a little information about Jerry Lucky, Jr. beyond 1880 [date and spouse for marriage; some of his children], but doesn’t appear that death information has been learned about either Ellen or Jerry, Jr. Learning more about them (for example, their death certificates) might provide clues to city or county where they were born.
In particular, Jerry, Lucky, Jr. seems to have been born at Texas in the immediate aftermath of the Civil War, but prior to the 1870 census. Learning all the clues about birth location of Jerry, Jr. seems particularly important.

More later--GJ

P.S. Viewed som Confederate Civil War items for surname Luckey at Footnote.com. Most were names at Georgia and North Carolina, but there was one who seved at Texas. When I figure out how to shrink and upload the images associated with John Luckey, who served of Texas, will attach same for your research log.

Attachments:

• Luckey, Jerry 1880 Cass Co, Texas.pdf, 4 MB
• Sampson and Lewis 1880 Cass Co, Texas.pdf, 1.7 MB
• Sampson and Lews 1900 Cass Co Texas 4112122_422.pdf, 707 KB

Permalink Reply by Khathu on October 3, 2009 at 2:57pm

Hello GJ,

I believe that the birth date for John Lewis is 1872 because Millard Lewis the husband of Jane Luckey is listed in the 1870; Census Place: Precinct 2, Davis, Texas; Roll M593_1582; Page: 35; as living with a Shadrick Lewis. This makes me assumed that he did not marry Jane until after 1870. In addition, I believe that the family arrived in Texas prior to 1870 and Cass (Davis) by at least 1873 because this is the time when some of the know Luckey children (Sarah and Walter Luckey) started getting married 1874 and 1875 respectively.

In terms of death records, I have only been able to locate death information on Sarah, Walter and Nettie.

In addition, I am unable to locate any marriage or death information on Ellen Luckey so I am assumed she died between 1880-1900.

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on October 3, 2009 at 4:08pm

Hi Khathu:

You wrote, " I am unable to locate any marriage or death information on Ellen Luckey so I am assumed she died between 1880-1900."

From what I've read, more than one disease took its toll on the community. On the other hand, we believe this was a much larger family, but have identifed only six of the children.

Have you ever been able to identify the grandson, "infant" Luckey reported in the census of 1880 (appears b. May 1880)? --GJ

Misc. Item:
"Cass County [Texas] Historical Markers," Four Tours (http://www.forttours.com/pages/hmcass.asp : ...); entry about marker located near Kildale, Cass County, "Whittaker Memorial Cemetery"; from the site (quoting):
Marker Title: Whittaker Memorial Cemetery
City: Kildare
County: Cass
Year Marker Erected: 1996
Marker Location: on FM 248, about 3 mi. S. of Kildare
Marker Text: This African American cemetery was once part of a large plantation owned by South Carolina native Willis Whitaker (Whittaker), who came to Texas in 1840 with his family and more than 50 slaves. Whitaker had acquired nearly 3000 acres by 1850; a six-acre tract of land was given as a cemetery for the slaves of the plantation. Those buried here were slaves, freed African Americans, and their descendants. The earliest graves may be those of seven Freemen killed on the plantation in 1868. An epidemic of malaria in 1896 claimed many lives, as did the diseases of smallpox and tuberculosis. It is believed that some of these victims were transported to the cemetery for mass burial. Natural disasters also took their toll; eight members of one family were killed in a wind storm in 1900. Many people were buried in unmarked graves, while others received makeshift markers and rocks as tombstones. Family members placed new headstones to replace some broken or illegible markers. Documented burials number more than 350, including educators, businessmen, and veterans. This cemetery is still in use by citizens of the area, as well as many former residents who are returned here to be buried.

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on October 2, 2009 at 2:17pm

Hi Khathu and Kate:

See also earlier replies posted this date.

Some titles from the listings in Family History Library Catalog online follow; these for the place, Texas, and category, Minorities.

Clyde McQueen; introduction by William E. Montgomery, _Black churches in Texas : a guide to historic congregations_ (College Station, Texas : Texas A&M University Press, c2000)

Ruthe Winegarten, _Black Texas women : a source book, documents, biographies, time lines_ (Austin : University of Texas Press, c1996)

Randolph B. Campbell, _An empire for slavery : the peculiar institution in Texas, 1821-1865_ (Baton Rouge, Louisiana : Louisiana State University Press, 1989)

Lawrence D. Rice, _The Negro in Texas, 1874-1900_ (Baton Rouge, Louisiana : Louisiana State University Press, c1971)

Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands, United States, Records of the Assistant Commissioner for Texas, 1865-1869 : NARA, RG105, M821
Note states: "The Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned lands, often referred to as the Freedmen's Bureau, was established in the War Department by an act of March 3, 1865. Congress assigned to the Bureau responsibilities that previously had been shared by military commanders and by agents of the Treasury Department. The duties included supervision of all affairs relating to refugees, freedmen, and the custody of abandoned lands and property"--Descriptive pamphlet M843.

Similar title ....
Records of the field offices for the state of Texas, Bureau of Refugees, Freedmen, and Abandoned Lands, 1865-1870 : NARA, RG 105, M1912

G. L. Smith, The route taken, the migration of one group of African American settlers from North Carolina to Texas after the Civil War (Tucson, Arizona : G.L. Smith, c1990 )

Attachments:

• FHL Catalog_Texas - Minorities.pdf, 93 KB

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on October 3, 2009 at 11:06am

Hi Khathu and Kate:

Given timing of records about Jerry's family (marriages) appearing at now Cass County, Texas in the 1870s, the note below about development of the area in that time period seems relevant. The source can probably be improved upon:

Debra Buster and Nedra Chandler, "The Road to East Texas : Our Family Re-unon," Buster (GeoCities) home page (http://www.geocities.com/heartland/bluffs/2686/ : ...), for notes regarding events impacting on development of Cass County after the Civil War; in part (emphasis added), "...The Reconstruction Years in Texas were faulty in political theory, fallible in practice and subject to great abuses by the Carpetbaggers in power. However faulty, progressive development of East Texas came with swift railroad expansion of the 1870's and 1880's and discovery of the noble pine."

Article continues, "East Texas was a central hub, connecting many east-west and north-south railroad lines. The building of the Texas and Pacific Railway Company in 1873, through Cass County was responsible for the establishment of several Cass County towns and ultimately for the success of the mining and lumber industries. Atlanta, named for its many Georgia folks, was established in 1872 on the T&P line and served as a hub for railway traffic. In 1877, Queen City was established on the T&P line, and became a mining town when resources of iron ore were discovered. Bivens was established when JK and Frank H Bivens built 2 sawmills on the T&P line in the early 1880's. It became a shipping center for farmers and lumbermen. Hughes Springs named for Reece Hughes an early settler, was formally established off the East Line & Red River Railroad and served its area as a supply center down the line from Atlanta..."

Also, "By the end of 1880, Jay Gould, infamous railroad magnate, had acquired several of the railroad companies operating in Texas. He developed the southern railroad system, mainly operating under the Missouri Pacific Railroad name, crisscrossing the most northeast corner of Texas bringing entrepreneurs like Temple and Kirby, to the vast untapped resources of East Texas pine forests. With railway access, lumbering became the number one industry."

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