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Henry and Martha Haynes moved from England to Utah around 1880 help!
Hello, I am a new member to this site and hoping that someone can help me find some information.
It seems such a massive leap to me for this family to make and I am wondering if anyone knows anything about them?
As far as I know they would have been ordinary working class people...
in the 1861 census Henry aged 28 was a labourer, so how did they manage financially etc to move all that way? and why did he move?
Because of the Utah and Salt Lake City connection on many of their deaths
I was also wondering if they became followers of the Mormon faith and subsequently moved for that reason
(but this is just a guess as i really dont know )
Noah Haynes 1855 - 1927
Eliza Emma Haynes 1864 - 1920
Hyrum Haynes 1869 - 1953 died in Las Vegas
On my mothers paternal line of the family...the Haynes / Haines I have found that Henry 1838-1914 born in Warmington
and his wife Martha 1833-1914 moved from Bilston Wolverhampton England.
along with some if not all of their children to Nephi, Juab, Utah, USA.
and his wife Martha 1833-1914 moved from Bilston Wolverhampton England.
along with some if not all of their children to Nephi, Juab, Utah, USA.
It seems such a massive leap to me for this family to make and I am wondering if anyone knows anything about them?
As far as I know they would have been ordinary working class people...
in the 1861 census Henry aged 28 was a labourer, so how did they manage financially etc to move all that way? and why did he move?
Because of the Utah and Salt Lake City connection on many of their deaths
I was also wondering if they became followers of the Mormon faith and subsequently moved for that reason
(but this is just a guess as i really dont know )
the children that show a death in the USA names were:
Noah Haynes 1855 - 1927
Eliza Emma Haynes 1864 - 1920
Hyrum Haynes 1869 - 1953 died in Las Vegas
Agnes Haynes 1871 -1934
Orson Haynes 1876 - 1909
Edith Kirton Haynes 4 june 1883 -1969
I also found it interesting that the last child had a middle name
which is the same as her grandmothers maiden name!
Edith was the last child as far as I can tell and
the only one actually born outside of the Uk
therefore I am guessing that they moved somewhere between 1876 an 1882?
there are other brothers and sisters but I dont know if they too went to Utah as I dont have any death details for these people
I dont have any acess to any overseas records so cant trace them myself
but I am surely intrigued and would love to know some more about this family
hope someone can help?
thank you
Teresa
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I also found it interesting that the last child had a middle name
which is the same as her grandmothers maiden name!
Edith was the last child as far as I can tell and
the only one actually born outside of the Uk
therefore I am guessing that they moved somewhere between 1876 an 1882?
there are other brothers and sisters but I dont know if they too went to Utah as I dont have any death details for these people
I dont have any acess to any overseas records so cant trace them myself
but I am surely intrigued and would love to know some more about this family
hope someone can help?
thank you
Teresa
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Permalink Reply by Kate Steere on
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Hi Teresa :)
On the 1900 census, I find Orson living with Henry and Martha:
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Henry Haynes
Home in 1900: Nephi, Juab, Utah
Age: 69
Birth Date: Apr 1833
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1880
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's name: Martha
Marriage Year: 1855
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 45
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Henry Haynes 69
Martha Haynes 63
Orson Haynes 23
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Nephi, Juab, Utah; Roll T623_1683; Page: 18A; Enumeration District: 104.
according to this record, Martha had 14 children, 12 were still living. They immigrated in 1881. Orson was a sheep herder. Also, I do see a Samuel Haynes born 1827 in England who arrived in the US in 1889. Henry, Martha and Orson were naturalized citizens.
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Permalink Reply by Teresa Berrsley on
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wow thank you soooooo much
I am piecing together bit by bit and finding this amazing
I also found that Henry's brother Richard and wife Eliza nee brown
moved to utah in abt 1863
thanks for your help
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Hi :)
I found a possible Noah Haynes, according to the 1910 census, he and his family arrived in 1897, but I see a passenger list for his family in 1907.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Noch Haynes
[Noah Haynes]
Age in 1910: 55
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Spouse's name: Elizabeth
Home in 1910: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1897
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Noch Haynes 55
Elizabeth Haynes 54
Walter C Haynes 21
William W Haynes 19
Earnest E Haynes 16
Source Citation: Year: 1910; Census Place: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah; Roll T624_1607; Page: 12B; Enumeration District: 141; Image: 731.
Wife and children all born in England.
In 1920, the census gives their immigration year as 1907, as of 1910, they were still alien residents, and Noah worked as a cemetery caretaker:
1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Noah Haynes
Home in 1920: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah
Age: 63
Estimated birth year: abt 1857
Birthplace: England
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
[Head]
Spouse's name: Elizabeth F
Father's Birth Place: England
Mother's Birth Place: England
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1907
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Noah Haynes 63
Elizabeth F Haynes 64
Walter C Haynes 31
Source Citation: Year: 1920;Census Place: Salt Lake City Ward 5, Salt Lake, Utah; Roll T625_1867; Page: 9B; Enumeration District: 153; Image: 90.
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Good afternoon Teresa :)
I found Martha and several of the children in England on the 1881 census:
1881 England Census 1881 England Census
Name: Martha Haynes
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1839
Relation: Head
Gender: Female
Where born: Wolverhampton, Staffordshire, England
Civil parish: Wolverhampton
County/Island: Staffordshire
Country: England
Street Address: 38 Chapel Street
Condition as to marriage: Married
Education:
Employment status:
View image
Registration district: Wolverhampton
Sub-registration district: Wolverhampton Western
ED, institution, or vessel: 13
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Martha Haynes 42
Emma Haynes 17
Clara Haynes 15
Tram Haynes 12
Agnes Haynes 10
Loryenya Haynes 6
Haryen Haynes 5
Caroline Haynes 1
Source Citation: Class: RG11; Piece: 2794; Folio: 63; Page: 23; GSU roll: 1341669.
I'm guessing maybe Henry went to the US first, then had the rest of the family come later?
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Thank You hun
do you have Ancestry? if so my username is tess1963
if you want to take a look choose the Berrsley tree
yes Henry went on a year ahead of Martha
these are the children I know of:
Henry Haynes
1833 – 1914
Noah Haynes
1855 – 1927
Joseph Haynes
1856 –
Heber Jedediah Haynes
1858 –
Emma Haynes
1859 – 1861
Heber F Haynes
1859 –
Hyrum Henry Haynes
1861 – 1862
Richard Parley Haynes
1862 –
Eliza Emma Haynes
1864 – 1920
Clara Haynes
1866 –
Hyrum Haynes
1869 – 1953
Agnes Haynes
1871 – 1934
Lorenzo Haynes
1874 –
Orson Haynes
1876 – 1909
Caroline Haynes
1879 – 1964
Edith Kirton Haynes
1883 – 1969
they didn't take all the children with them !
thanks for your help Hun
much appreciated
Teresa
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I also just found an immigration record for Martha(Mary), Hiram, Agnes, Lorenzo, Orson and Caroline. I'm attaching the record for you. They arrived in New York on the Wisconsin, November 2, 1881.
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Did Agnes marry a James Haynes? :)
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Agnes Haynes
Home in 1900: Eureka, Juab, Utah
Age: 27
Birth Date: May 1873
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1883
Relationship to Head of House: Wife
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Mother: number of living children: 6
Mother: How many children: 6
Spouse's name: James
Marriage Year: 1889
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 11
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members:
Name Age
James Haynes 39
Agnes Haynes 27
James Haynes 10
Arthur Haynes 8
Sherman Haynes 7
Nellie Haynes 5
Ruth Haynes 3
Dewey Haynes 2
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Eureka, Juab, Utah; Roll T623_1683; Page: 25A; Enumeration District: 102.
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Here is Hyrum in 1900:
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Hyrum Haynes
[Hyram Haynes]
Home in 1900: Nephi, Juab, Utah
Age: 31
Birth Date: Mar 1869
Birthplace: England
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1882
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: England
Mother's Birthplace: England
Spouse's name: Alice H
Marriage Year: 1890
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 10
Occupation: View on Image
Household Members:
Name Age
Hyrum Haynes 31
Alice H Haynes 28
Angus H Haynes 9
Delos Haynes 7
Olive G Haynes 5
Blanche Haynes 4
Fern Haynes 1
Source Citation: Year: 1900; Census Place: Nephi, Juab, Utah; Roll T623_1683; Page: 21A; Enumeration District: 104.
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I dont know about a marriage for Agnes
but that may be because she married in Utah not England
I dont have any access on Ancestry to overseas records
so I am counting on good people like yourself to help me fill in the blanks
I have lots of hints but they are not accessible to me
you are doing a great job
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so on a US census you dont get the maiden name of the wife?
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Nope, usually the only way to find out a maiden name, if you don't already know her maiden name or find a marriage record is if an unmarried sister is living with the family or the mother in law. The Agnes Haynes I found in 1900 seems to match up pretty well, and on the death index where I found her, she was Agnes Haynes Haynes. :)
let me know if there are specific people you want looked up and I'll see what I can do. :)
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I also found this site, by googling "Lorenzo Haynes" Utah
http://2deebees.net/page60a.html
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