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Comment by Ron Oakley on August 22, 2017 at 5:01pm

Hi John Thomas Noble. I'm very interested in your latest post regarding your John Noble b. 1847/48 somewhere in Fermanagh, as my grandfather was also born there, in 1843 or 1845 in Dromore, Fermanagh. He married June 14, 1864 in Drumkeeran or Ivinestown, Fermanagh to Margaret McCutchen and his father was listed as John Noble. He & Margaret came to Quebec in 1864, and on the 1871 Cdn.census, there was an Edward Noble b.abt 1848 in Ireland, living with Henry and family. Both were Protestant, Henry was C of E and Congregational, while Edward was Methodist. I've never been able to go any further back, nor find out the name of Henry's or Edward's mother. I would love to see if we match at all with DNA, but don't know exactly how to proceed. Would like to hear from you, and can give you my e-mail address if you like, just let me know.

Comment by James Thomas Noble on August 22, 2017 at 3:04pm

I finally have an update on the search for my GGF John Noble, born (somewhere) in Fermanagh in 1847 or 1848, father unknown, mother named Rose (surname unknown). I am a close match to the proprietor of this forum, and have received other Y-67 matches through FTDNA, ranging from Canada to Australia. None of my Y-67 matches know their point of origin in Fermanagh.

The NLM has started putting Catholic baptisms on line. One of the complexities of my search for John Noble, b. 1847-8 is the fact that he was raised in Connecticut by an adoptive family as a Roman Catholic, when, as we know, most of the Fermanagh Nobles are as Orange as they come.

I recently received through Ancestry a copy of the baptism of Johannes Noble 3 April 1848, Father Johannes Noble, Mother Rosa Maguire, Parish of Enniskillen, Diocese of Clogher. Above the name of the father is a notation "0-14" or possibly "0-IL", which a Facebook contact tells me indicates illegitimacy, although it is in a different hand than the register entry and looks as if it could have been entered after the original entry. The godparents are Thomas and Susanna Corrin.

Anyway, I think that's as close as I'm going to get. Anyone who an comment on the notation "O-IL" or "0-IL", I'd love to hear from you.

Comment by Bruce Noble on August 22, 2017 at 8:06am

Oh, today I can post! Check your email Marjorie for more details from Suzanne. When and how the connection occurred remains unclear to me, but there does appear to be a connection. I always knew I had an unnaturally strong affinity for cuddly koalas.

Comment by Marjorie Noble on August 22, 2017 at 7:47am

Hi Suzanne, let me know if you have trouble reaching my dad. How do genetic markers work? (That's probably a whole course in genetics!) would matching at 67 markers mean a close relationship? Do I have a long lost relative in Australia?! That would be awesome! Marjorie

Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 21, 2017 at 6:56pm

Hi Marjorie, I have just emailed your Dad, Bruce Jack. With so many people involved, maybe some of the mysteries will be solved,

Regards,

Suzanne

Comment by Marjorie Noble on August 21, 2017 at 6:44pm

Hi to Michael Noble! I am Bruce Noble's sister so I guess that makes us cousins too! I see a comment to Suzanne Kier Himmelreich re genetic markers matching to Bruce Jack, who is my dad. So I must be related to her too! I cannot even pretend to understand genetic markers though, so who know?! Marjorie Noble

Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 21, 2017 at 6:25pm

Thank you Michael, will do......

Comment by Michael W. Noble on August 21, 2017 at 12:35pm

Suzanne....My cousin Bruce Noble is trying to send you a message but having trouble doing it through Genealogy Wise.  Please e-mail him at webnoble1@gmail.com.  Thanks.

Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 21, 2017 at 12:21am

John's kit # 599041

Bruce Jack has tested to 67 markers, but is still at M269

Comment by Suzanne Kier Himmelreich /Storey on August 21, 2017 at 12:17am

I just have my brother's Y111 results:

111 markers - 0

67 markers - 1    Bruce Jack Noble @ GD 6 

                      2     Noble ?  M269    @ GD 7

37 markers    1   Bruce Jack Noble  @ GD 4

25 markers     1  Noble ? M269        @ GD 2

12 markers      21 Nobles                  @ GD 0

I am surprised that the same two people match at different GD's at different markers.

I sent a message to Bruce Jack Noble which was returned - address unknown.

I am beginning to wonder if there has been what is delicately known as a 'non parental event' !!!!!!

                      

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