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My German family surname is Bonstein The oldest Bonstein Ancestor of mine recorded in my file is Cuntz Bonnstein and his wife Gela. They were married before 1630 and lived in the town of Ropperhousen, in the Principality of Hesse-Kassel (a principality in northern Hesse) in what was know as the Holy Roman Empire.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire
The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (German: Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation listen ▶ (help·info), Latin Sacrum Romanum Imperium Nationis Germanicae, see names and designations of the empire) was a political conglomeration of lands in Central Europe in the Middle Ages and the early modern period. Emerging from the eastern part of the Frankish realm after its division in the Treaty of Verdun (843), it lasted almost a millennium until its dissolution in 1806. By the 18th century, it still consisted of the larger part of modern Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria, Liechtenstein, Slovenia, Belgium, and Luxembourg, as well as large parts of modern Poland and small parts of the Netherlands. Previously, it had included all of the Netherlands and Switzerland, and parts of modern France and Italy (see: Maps below). In the 18th century, when the Empire was already in decline, Voltaire ridiculed its nomenclature by saying that the Holy Roman Empire was "neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire".
It was never a nation state. Despite the German ethnicity of most of its rulers and subjects, from the very beginning many ethnicities constituted the Holy Roman Empire. Many of its most important noble families and appointed officials came from outside the German-speaking communities. At the height of the empire it contained most of the territory of today's Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Czech Republic and Slovenia, as well as eastern France, northern Italy and western Poland. Its languages thus comprised not only German and its many dialects and derivatives, but many Slavic languages and the languages which became modern French, Dutch and Italian. Furthermore, its division into territories ruled by numerous secular and ecclesiastical princes, prelates, counts, imperial knights, and free cities made it, in the early modern period at least, far less cohesive than the emerging modern states around it.
However, during most of its time it was more than a mere confederation. The concept of the Reich not only included the government of a specific territory, but had strong Christian religious connotations (hence the holy prefix). Until 1508, German Kings were not considered Emperors of the Reich until the Pope had formally crowned them as such.
The Reich can thus best be described as a cross between a state and a religious confederation
For more information see:
http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/...
My family moves forward to 1776 and the American Revolutionary War. Laurentius (Lorenz) Bonstein (Johann Paulus (Paul)5, Christian4, Henning3, Cuntz2, First name unknown1) was born February 5, 1716 in Grossropperhausen, Cassel, Germany and his wife Hedwig Lingemann have to give up two son to the standing Army of Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel.
Paulus Bonnstein and his younger brother my ancestor Johann Jacob (I) Bonstein.
Jacob stayed here and Paulus went home to Hesse-Kassell and family after the war.
If your interested we can exchange information
Thank you for reading
Nelda
My German family surname is Bonstein The oldest Bonstein Ancestor of mine recorded in my file is Cuntz Bonnstein and his wife Gela. They were married before 1630 and lived in the town of Ropperhousen, in the Principality of Hesse-Kassel (a principality in northern Hesse) in what was know as the Holy Roman Empire.
Copied verbatim from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire
The Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation (German: Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation listen ▶ (help·info), Latin Sacrum Romanum Imperium Nationis Germanicae, see names and designations of the empire) was a political conglomeration of lands in Central Europe in the Middle Ages and the early modern period. Emerging from the eastern part of the Frankish realm after its division in the Treaty of Verdun (843), it lasted almost a millennium until its dissolution in 1806. By the 18th century, it still consisted of the larger part of modern Germany, the Czech Republic, Austria, Liechtenstein, Slovenia, Belgium, and Luxembourg, as well as large parts of modern Poland and small parts of the Netherlands. Previously, it had included all of the Netherlands and Switzerland, and parts of modern France and Italy (see: Maps below). In the 18th century, when the Empire was already in decline, Voltaire ridiculed its nomenclature by saying that the Holy Roman Empire was "neither Holy, nor Roman, nor an Empire".
It was never a nation state. Despite the German ethnicity of most of its rulers and subjects, from the very beginning many ethnicities constituted the Holy Roman Empire. Many of its most important noble families and appointed officials came from outside the German-speaking communities. At the height of the empire it contained most of the territory of today's Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, Belgium, the Netherlands, Luxembourg, Czech Republic and Slovenia, as well as eastern France, northern Italy and western Poland. Its languages thus comprised not only German and its many dialects and derivatives, but many Slavic languages and the languages which became modern French, Dutch and Italian. Furthermore, its division into territories ruled by numerous secular and ecclesiastical princes, prelates, counts, imperial knights, and free cities made it, in the early modern period at least, far less cohesive than the emerging modern states around it.
However, during most of its time it was more than a mere confederation. The concept of the Reich not only included the government of a specific territory, but had strong Christian religious connotations (hence the holy prefix). Until 1508, German Kings were not considered Emperors of the Reich until the Pope had formally crowned them as such.
The Reich can thus best be described as a cross between a state and a religious confederation
For more information see:
http://freepages.military.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~bonsteinandgilpin/...
My family moves forward to 1776 and the American Revolutionary War. Laurentius (Lorenz) Bonstein (Johann Paulus (Paul)5, Christian4, Henning3, Cuntz2, First name unknown1) was born February 5, 1716 in Grossropperhausen, Cassel, Germany and his wife Hedwig Lingemann have to give up two son to the standing Army of Frederick II, Landgrave of Hesse-Kassel.
Paulus Bonnstein and his younger brother my ancestor Johann Jacob (I) Bonstein.
Jacob stayed here and Paulus went home to Hesse-Kassell and family after the war.
If your interested we can exchange information
Thank you for reading
Nelda
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Permalink Reply by Joyce E (Moore) Hodges on
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Lippelmann from Spenge/Bieldfield, specific town in Wallenbrucke. This is my husband's family. We still have relatives in the area that we reconnected with via my webpage: http://jehodges.tripod/lippelmann.html We have a long biography written in German of Caspar Lippelmann (1802-1889) that we need to have translated. My husband's high school German gets the gist of it, but some of it is too complicated.
Teetzel - English spelling John Solomon , unproved date of birth 27 Feb 1762, Saxe Cobourg Gotha, Upper Saxony. Alleged came to New Jersey by 1786, moved to Ontario Canada by 1810. Know for his tombstone carving. John married in 1786 in New Jersey Julia Ann Von Till/Tyle/Sill/Syle, also alleged to be German. -
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Permalink Reply by FamOlson on
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I am searching for Robert Paul Wilhelm Ludwig in the Kreuzberg area of Berlin in the 1870's and 1880's. Any ideas for help would be greatly appreciated. He married, had 9 children, wife died, and remarried all in Berlin before coming to the United States. I have been trying to find info on this family for 35 years.
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Permalink Reply by Anne Holden on
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My great-great granfather, Jacob Goepper (Goppert, Goeppert), came to the USA in 1873. Jacob's father, Johann Goppert, lived in Stuttgart. Jacob lived in Kehl, Baden, Germany before migrating to the US.
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With a strong German background for both my husband and myself, I have quite a list of German surnames I'm following/looking into. Germanic surnames I’m researching are as follows:
HANDICK – Henry Wilhelm HANDICK born 20 Mar 1841 in (according to 1880 US Census) Prussia. He immigrated to the USA in 1860.
PORTMANN – Heinrich PORTMANN married Elizabeth HUMELYENS 01 Oct 1797 at Mulheim, Germany
HUMELYENS – Elizabeth HUMELYENS married Heinrich PORTMANN 01 Oct 1797 at Mulheim, Germany. Their daughter Wilhelmine PORTMANN married Johann Heinrich HANDICK and was the mother of Henry Wilhelm HANDICK who immigrated to the USA in 1860.
MEYER – Dorothe Auguste MEYER born 18 Oct 1841 in (according to 1880 US Census) Magdeburg, Prussia
IPPEN – Peter IPPEN born 08 Jan 1853 in (according to US Census) Wurtemburg, Germany; immigrated to USA in 1871
JACOBS – Elilzabeth JACOBS born about 1820 in Wurtemburg, Germany; immigration date to USA unknown; died in Vigo County, Indiana 11 Jul 1876.
MEISSEL – Hans Ernst MEISSEL born 1819 in Hanover; immigration date unknown; died in Vigo County, Indiana July 1878
GRIEF – Wilhelmina GRIEF born 1819 in Hanover; immigration date between 1852 & 1856; died in Vigo County, Indiana July 1891
HEYEN – Fred HEYEN and his wife, Lena (surname unknown) immigrated from Baden Germany to USA sometime between the birth of their daughter Hiskey (1863) and the birth of their daughter Reka Vivian (19 Nov 1869). Hiskey was born in Baden, Germany and Reka was born in Indiana.
HOFF – John Christian HOFF born 1811 in Hesse immigrated to Indiana in 1847 with his wife Anna Catherine SHALEY and children Frederick, Caroline, & Wilhelmina. Their sons William and Henry were born in Clay County, Indiana.
SHALEY – Anna Catherine SHALEY born 1824 in Hesse immigrated in 1847 with her husband John Christian HOFF and their children.
HOLENBERG – Frederick HOLENBERG born about 1812 and his wife Maney (born about 1819, surname unknown) were both born in Prusssia and immigrated sometime after the birth of their oldest daughter, Mary, in 1841 to Indiana. Their second daughter, Sophia, was born in Indiana.
DENEHIE – Samuel J DENEHIE was born in New York about 1827. I don’t know when the family immigrated, who Samuel’s parents were, or where specifically they were from, but family tradition holds that they came from Germany.
STOODY – John STOODY born about 1738 immigrated from Germany, but I don’t know from what region sometime before the birth of his son, George in 1774. George STOODY was born in Somerset, Washington County, Pennsylvania.
SHUSTER (SCHUSTER) – Margaret SHUSTER was born about 1738 in Germany and immigrated to the USA sometime before the birth of her son, George in 1774.
SHUSTER – Daniel SHUSTER was born 13 Jun 1752 in Baden Württemberg, Germany. He and his wife, Marie Margret (surname unknown), born 1758 in Germany immigrated to the USA sometime before the birth of their daughter, Ann Barbara SHUSTER, in 1777.
YANT – Susanna YANT was born 1799 in Washington, Pennsylvania but I believe the family originally came from one of the Germanic states.
MINNIS – Hugh MINNIS was born 13 Nov 1786 in Pennsylvania, but I don’t know the name of the immigrating ancestor. I do however believe that this family also comes from one of the Germanic states.
CLARE – Charles CLARE born about 1825 in Bavaria immigrated to the USA sometime before the birth of his first son, also named Charles, in 1856. The mother of the younger Charles named Mary, was from Ireland.
I hope I've put this in a format that's relatively easy to follow.
Thanks for taking the time to read this list.
Blessings,
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Permalink Reply by Joseph P. Jennings on
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I am researching the following surnames: Albert, Ittinger (Edinger), Reber, Schilling and others from a small extinct village in Baden, near the town of Leibenstadt. The village was called Tolnayshof (Tolnaishof) (Tollnaishof) and during the 1850's the inhabitants were strongly encouraged to emigrate.
Many of the families ended up in Albany County or the city of Albany in New York State. Some of the other families that left were: Fehm, Hauser, Herbinger, Hofmann, Knittel, Maerz, Maier, Saenger, Sallig, Schwind and Wolpert.
I have a book which lists emigrants from this village and am willing to do lookups. -
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Permalink Reply by Christine B on
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My German roots start with the Arenburgs of Nova Scotia, Canada. My Great Grandmother on my father's - father's - mother's side is an Arenburg. (hope thats not confusing)
The last German birth I have record of in my line with the Arenburgs is with Johann Friedrick Arenburg b.1710 Hesse- Dramstadt-Breuberg, Germany. d. 1781 Lunenburg,Nova Scotia, Canada.
I have no information of Johann's parents and there after.
His wife was Maria Julieanna Christ b. 1721 Brensbach, Germany d. 1793 Lunenburg, NS, Canada.
----------------------Maria is the last known German birth for my line with the Christ family.
----My Christ family line is traced to Peter Christ b.1590 Florsheim, Germany.
Surnames in my Arenburg and Christ family lines: Menn. Melchior, Ohl, Munk, Duchmann, Harnish, Mertz, Schmidt, Hoffman, Harnish.
This is just 2 of 4 lines I have through German decent.
Naugler: My line starts in 1796 with Ann Christine Naugler married a Johan Arenburg b. 1788 in NS.
I trace that line to Nicklaus Nagle 1691 Germany.
Im unsure of the information I have for him and I have no further information.
Surnames: Fralich, Schmidt, Sienbenphiferin.
Meisner: Eva Catherine Margaret Simon b. 1807 NS,Canada, married John Arenburg b.1814 NS.Canada.
Eva's mother was Anna Christianna Meisner
I trace my Meisner line to Thomas Meisner b. 1625 in Altenstadt, Germany with many thanks to the Meisner family web site.
Surnames in that line: NAAS, Ruess, Nickol, Sommer, Masson, Guigne, Rehnen,
I would love to find stories about these familes and further the research. -
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Permalink Reply by Linda Grinolds on
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My g-grandfather, Carl Kemmesatt, was born 19 September 1855 in Hamburg, Germany. His father died about 1862 in Prussia. He married Anna Kalwait born 29 Oct 1857 in Goldap, Ostpreussen, Prussia.
Her father is Michael Kalwait born 1792 in Ostpreussen, Prussia and died there in 1866. Her mother is Christine Kommich born 15 April 1815 in Ostpreussen, Prussia and died 6 June 1896 near Hanover, North Dakota.
My grandmother, Wilhelmina Mary Kemmesatt, was also born in Goldap on 29 September 1884. There are a number of older siblings also born in Goldap. They came to the USA, about 1885, and moved to Hazen & New Salem, North Dakota. Carl died in New Salem, ND on 1 April 1932 and Anna also in New Salem on 30 July 1937. Both are buried there.
Wilhelmina married John Joseph Keeley 28 April 1903 in Glen Ullen, North Dakota. After a time they moved to Idaho and then on to California. John was born 23 August 1868 in St. Paul, Minnisota and died 1 July 1960 in San Jose, California. Wilhelmina also died in San Jose, California on 14 February 1973. -
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Permalink Reply by Wendy Ramirez on
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I have Several German Family Lines that I am Researching, I will list them with the Oldest known date and Place, for some Surnames I do not have a location.
Knauss/Knouse abt 1546 Delsheim, Oberhessen, Hessen, Germany
Klink abt 1634 Dudelsheim, Oberhessen, Hessen, Germany
Gerlach/Goerlach abt 1622 Dudelsheim, Wetteraukreis, Hessen, Germany
Hartmann abt 1600 Balingen, Zollernalbkreis, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Neu/Nigh/Nye abt 1645 Hoffenheeim, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Jung abt 1640 Hoffenheeim, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Horpuff abt 1700 Waibstait, Germany
Herre abt 1650 Zillhausen, Hesse, Germany
Haag abt 1670 Zillhausen, Hesse, Germany
Fassnacht/Fasnaugh/Fosnaugh etc. abt 1670 Hohengehren, Esslingen, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Unruth abt 1670 Hohengehren, Esslington, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Adam abt 1700 Cannstatt, Stuttgart, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Schweickhardt abt 1700 Cannstatt, Stuttgart, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Stambach abt 1700 Cannstatt, Stuttgart, Baden-Wuertenberg, Germany
Schwartzlander/Swartzlander abt 1670 Westheim, Bavaria, Germany
Schein abt 1670 Westheim, Bavaria, Germany
Weyrich/Wyrick/Weirick abt 1570 Reichweiler, Germany
Theiss abt 1700 Reichweiler-Pfeffenbach, Germany
Baist/Best abt 1638 Seidenroth, Germany
Sheiks/Sheeks/Sheaks/Shicks Pre 1750
Basom Pre 1755
Diehl abt 1550
Root Pre 1740
Hauser Pre 1740
Trost Pre 1730
Wales Pre 1720
Kuentzer Pre 1740
Becker Pre 1570
Autenbacher Pre 1630
DutenHaver Pre 1802
Sipes Pre 1817
Cooper Pre 1790
Hech Pre 1660
Jahn Pre 1700
Rohrbach Pre 1760
Jung/Youn g Pre 1700
I would love to hear from anyone Researching these Families
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Permalink Reply by Catherine Lively on
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I am Researching Shick/Sheik/Sheek/Sheak From Hesse, Germany
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Permalink Reply by Dawn Kurth-Minard on
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I am searching for information of William "Henry" Kurth b. approx March 1837 in Kurhessen, 1870 says Prussia, 1880- Hesse Castle, 1900 says Germany, Henry emmigrated around 1854 to the U.S. on unknown ship, seems he most likey arrived in Philadelphia as he was in PA for a while. He married Anna Barbara (Wageman) Lutz, who was born 1842 in Bayern, around 1860, by 1864 they were in IL, by 1865 in Iowa County, Iowa till his death in 1910. Henry may have emmigrated with a brother/cousin Adam Kurth who also emmigrated around 1854 and who settled in Montgomery Co. PA.
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I am searching for my husband's Kling family line. I cannot get beyond his great great grandfather, Jacob Kling, born around 1826 in Darmstadt, married to an Anna or Annie (last name not known) thought to have been born around 1825 in Kur Hessen. I have found a Naturalization record for Jacob, date 28 Oct 1864 and shows his Former Nationality: Duke of Hesse-Darmstadt, however there is no port or date of arrival on the form. I have not found a naturalization record for Anna, but on the 1900 census, it indicated she immigrated in 1861. I cannot find a ship record for either of them, but know that they came to New York and that is where they stayed all their lives.
A strange fact that I have come across is that they had 5 sons, Frank (b.1860), John (b.1861), Conrad (b. 1862), Jacob (b. 1863), and Albert (b.1873), and several daughters (per a family bible-no names listed), however in the 1870 and 1880 US censuses Frank and John are not listed as living with Jacob and Annie (although Conrad, Jacob, and Albert are-no daughters are ever listed on any of the censuses that I came across). There is an 1870 US census that lists a Frank and John (same ages) living with a Conrad Kling in New York. As a matter of fact, this Conrad lived in Wayland, NY in 1870, exactly where my father-in-law was born and raised (Jacob and Annie stayed in the Manhattan area). It may be that this Conrad was a brother of Jacob, and for some reason Jacob's 2 oldest boys went to stay with their uncle Conrad.
If anyone has any ideas on how to locate this line of the Klings in Germany, please let me know. Also, if you have any knowledge of this Frank or John Kling (and yes, I have found a Frank and a John, same ages, in ancestry.com, listed Conrad as their father) and why they would be in the family bible as children of Jacob and Annie, yet never found in their household, please share. Thank you. -
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Permalink Reply by Carol Rombach Teeman on
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I am looking for the names Rombach, Luly/Luley/Lulay, and Cauff. All lived in Allegheny Co., Pennsylvania. The Rombach and Luly familes came to the U.S. from Baden, Germany in the 1830's. Charles Rombach (born 1811) married Maria Anna Luly (born 1822) around 1840. My brick wall has come trying to find the parents of Charles. I am also looking for info on the Cauff family, Lena Cauff and Peter Cauff (brother and sister), probably from the Pittsburgh area. Both born in the late 1890's/early 1900's.
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