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Vance Ormand Grey left a comment for Donald James Phillipps

Hi Donald, please contact me by e-mail at vance.grey@yahoo.es. Regards

Jan 7, 2010

Donald James Phillipps left a comment for Vance Ormand Grey

Dear Vance, I am interested in Ernest Clyde Grey, and since yo are also researching the name Belcher, I am assuming I am on the right track. Ernest Clyde Grey was a Methodist Home Missionary at Hikurangi in 1928-1929 and then went to Theological…

Jan 7, 2010

Vance Ormand Grey and Debbie Kennett are now friends Jul 27, 2009

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Hi Vance, I'm glad you managed to get set up on GenealogyWise. You now need to start joining some groups. Berkshire is a long way from Devon, but there are groups for both counties. You can find the Devon group…

Jul 26, 2009

Vance Ormand Grey updated their profile Jul 26, 2009

Vance Ormand Grey left a comment for Debbie Kennett

Hi Debbie, I am now set up in genealogywise. Incidentally, my Belcher and Taylor great grandparents on my mother's mother's side are from Berkshire (I know the Belchers are from Goosey). Does the Devon group include Berkshire? I'm…

Jul 26, 2009

Vance Ormand Grey is now a member of Genealogy Wise Jul 26, 2009

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What surnames are you interested in researching?: Elliott Davey Whiteside Gibbins Belcher Hawthorne Taylor Clement

What countries and other locations are you interested in researching?: England Ireland

What is your level of genealogy knowledge?: Advanced Family History Researcher

For what reason did you start genealogy research?: I wanted to find out why my surname is Grey but my father's name was Ernest Clyde Elliott on his birth certificate. I have found that my father's mother, Edith Jane Elliott, nee Whiteside,,who married Robert Horace Elliott in 1898 and had my father from her in 1902, became pregnant off a German, named Ernst Wilhelm Paul Heumann in 1905. They all lived in Sydney, Australia, at the time. When she was about two months pregnant Edith and Wilhelm left Sydney in 1905 taking my father with them and changed their names to Freda Grei and Wilhelm Grei. They came to New Zealand in a coal scow in the middle of winter and made their way to Christchurch where the baby, named Wilhelm, was born. The father was not named in the entry in the birth registry. The child was described as illegitimate (Edith was still married to Robert Horace Elliott). Another child Frank was born in 1907. About 1924 Wilhelm left Edith and went to South Africa where he married and had a son Ernst Joey Grei. My grandmother changed Grei to Grey around this time. My father married under the surname Grey, hence my surname is Grey. However Grey is basically an assumed name. My real surname should be Elliott. Basically, my father was abducted and that will be why Edith and Wilhelm changed their names and left Sydney so hurriedly, on a coal scow named Maroro and in mid-winter. On a boat like a coal scow there was no passenger list. You only had to grease the hand of the captain.

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At 8:02pm on January 6, 2010, Donald James Phillipps said…: Dear Vance, I am interested in Ernest Clyde Grey, and since yo are also researching the name Belcher, I am assuming I am on the right track. Ernest Clyde Grey was a Methodist Home Missionary at Hikurangi in 1928-1929 and then went to Theological College, without completing his course. He was, subsequently a clerk, coppersmith and factory worker in and around Auckland. He married Ivy Wilhelmina Belcher in 1938. I am seeking his exact dates and places of birth and death, and any other information which is, or could be, in the public domain. If you are connected to him I hope you might be prepared to share that with me. I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards, Donald Phillipps

At 2:14pm on July 26, 2009, Debbie Kennett said…: Hi Vance, I'm glad you managed to get set up on GenealogyWise. You now need to start joining some groups. Berkshire is a long way from Devon, but there are groups for both counties. You can find the Devon group here:

http://www.genealogywise.com/group/devon

and the Berkshire group here:

http://www.genealogywise.com/group/Berkshire

There are also lots of different surname groups. Are you Gibbins by any chance from Devon? My friend Chris Gibbins is an expert on the early Gibbins and you can find the Gibbins group here:

http://www.genealogywise.com/group/gibbins