I am trying to find the parents of Joseph Dale, my Gt Gt Gt Gt Grandfather who was born in Audley near Newcastle Under Lyme, Staffordshire in 1747. Joseph's wife was Elizabeth Webb who was also born in Audley in 1747. Any help would be appreciated as I seem to have come up with a blank.
That's cool. Well, I haven't had much time for genealogy stuff. I am embroiled in personal matters for a while. I did have a moment here and will do so when I get a few minutes to add more to your collection of Dale documentation. This is…
That's cool. Well, I haven't had much time for genealogy stuff. I am embroiled in personal matters for a while. I did have a moment here and will do so when I get a few minutes to add more to your collection of Dale documentation. This is a 1910 Census where Rosa is seen working as a housekeeper for a family. It's not too readable as a lot of those old census are. Will get back with more when time allows. Hope you are doing well.
Strange happening here. I was just organizing all my bookmarks and found this old link to some site I must have used ages ago looking up Cole/Coles people. I decided to check it out again and found more about your Dales. You might want to check it out further.
Oh my dear Margaret. How awful about your fall and tooth. I'm sorry to hear that. I hope you didn't injure anything else in the process. Thanks for the link. I'll check it from time to time but I doubt we will have any luck. I've posted in many places myself in the past with no results. Thanks for trying. Is there anything in emigration records for John?
I'll be posting more info for you sometime this weekend. I just haven't had a chance to do any computer work today. If time permits I'll make sure do do more lookups. This Dale family is rather interesting. It makes you wonder what life was like back then in that part of this country.
Anyway, I do hope you have recovered from your misfortune and do feel better. Dental work is no fun.
At 4:38pm on September 30, 2009, Sarah Coles said…
I forgot to add Noah Bennett's death record so here it is.
At 1:30pm on September 30, 2009, Sarah Coles said…
Next I worked on Lydia Ann Dale. She married a Noah William Bennett as you probably know. Here are copies of the census, death of Noah and Draft record. They had a lot of children too! Of course you will find Lydia living with her parents in census before 1910. I rotated, cropped, highlighted and resized these as they are quite large files the way they were. I'll work on some other later this week.
At 12:35pm on September 30, 2009, Sarah Coles said…
Have you contacted any of the people who have Wilford trees? I haven't forgotten my promise to you so I had a few minutes here and thought I'd upload more info I found for you. These are for Cyrus Dale. I had set up a tree on Ancestry for Wilford Dale as it's easier for me to look for things that way. I hope I'm not duplicating records you might already have so let me know if that's the case. Cyrus Dale 1917 WWI Draft Card.jpg
I just searched for William Kelsall in the Ryerson Index http://www.ryersonindex.org/ There is a death recorded earlier this year that fits in with his birth in 1918.
KELSALL William (Bill) Death notice 24APR2009 Death 90 late of Woonona Illawarra Mercury Published 25APR2009
If you go to the main Ryerson page you will find a "Contact Us" icon, click on that and send an email their Secretary to see if it is possible for one of their volunteers to send you a transcription of the death notice.
Regards, Jill
At 11:00am on September 27, 2009, Sarah Coles said…
Thanks, Margaret but I cannot open the file as it only works with I.E. and I use Firefox as my browser. However, I have already looked in GenForum many times with no luck. Can you tell me briefly what you found in the marriage lookups? I figured John was born around 1710 +/- 10 years. The only other suggestion I would have is for you to check emmigration records out of England to see if there is any John Cole that left around 1736 bound for New England. Unfortunately, I cannot even tell you what part of England he might have been from. I did find some immigration records for several John Coles into America but not enough detail to prove any of them. I really gave you a very challenging exercise. I commend you for even trying. Between my grandfather and myself it's been some 70+ years of searching for this illusive person!
At 7:37pm on September 26, 2009, Sarah Coles said…
Here's another member of the Wilfred Dale family. He is William A. Dale. I am enclosing his draft card, death citation (CA so he must have moved there at one point) and also the 1920 Federal Census where he was living with a brother-in-law named Pat Gooley. I wonder if William was ever married. Turns out ths family is fairly easy to trace. Will send more when I find time.
At 6:28pm on September 26, 2009, Sarah Coles said…
You are welcome. I know I can find more records for you but I think those draft cards are pretty accurate and good to have as documentionation. I'll keep looking when time permits. It's kind of fun to look up some different people for a change of pace.
There is one thing you could try but I don't know how much luck you'll have with it as I have so little to go on. To give you some background...my grandfather, Herbert B. Coles, was considered an eccentric man who was obsessed with our family history. He considered himself very "English" indeed and carried it to extremes. His lifelong search for the one missing link in the family proved to be fruitless. I was given all his notes, letters and various other information he had gathered since he started investigating his ancestors. He would have loved the Internet but of course back in the early 1900's he had to search for records the old way. He would visit libraries, cemeteries and even took a position working in a courthouse so he could have access to records there. There's much more to his story but basically he was instrumental in my interest in genealogy. I was lucky indeed to have so much given to me to start on my quest.
Herbert made a career in the Canadian Royal Army and maintained a dual citizenship with both Canada and the United States. When his time was over in the service he rook up residence near my parents home where he passed away in 1954. I have pictures of him on my photo page.
As to this John Cole he believed that he came from England in 1736 and settled in Kennebunkport, Maine. He had written letters to various people in England over the years looking for more information and was never successful. Unfortunately, any vital records of this John Cole that might have been, were destroyed in a fire in the 1800's in Kennbunport, Maine. It left him with little to go on. I have investigated a lot of Cole families in this country but none match so far. There may be a connection with a Cole from Cape Porpoise, Maine which is in the township of Kennebunkport. I have in my possession a history of that town but unfortunately, I cannot make the one link I need. I have read many books, articles and research several Cole lines.
I do know that Herbert was descended from a Seth Cole of Boston, born in 1770 who married Fanny Munroe of Lexington, MA and she was descended from William Munroe originally of Scotland. Anyway, back to John and the only thing I can think of that might help solve this mystery would be some record of his emmigration from England and what his destination was. Even then I can't prove anything on this end unless he somehow would tie into another Cole family where I could trace it back. I doubt I will ever be able to do that. In some of Herbert's notes I have, he claims that John Cole was thought to be an Admiral in the British Navy and brought a gold-headed cane with him to this country. It was said to be passed down to succeeding John's in each
generation. Where that story came from is unknown and probably not at all factual. I'll never know but it's fun to hear about it.
The name John Cole is a rather popular English name so I don't know how much you possibly could find out. Meanwhile, I will continue to check on sources and citations for your Wilfred's children when time permits.