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"Would you be able get the address of Sinsheim,Germany Archives??Thank you Janet."

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Janet L. Vanderpool left a comment for Catherine Davis

"Catherine:Bless you for your response.The address is the one that I faxed Mina's info to a couple of months ago.I haven't heard anything back yet,so I think that I will e-mail and ask if there was furthur information needed.Anyway,I…"

Dec 3, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"Check out http://www.gedenkstaette-grafeneck.de/329.htm and click on the tab labeled "visitor." It has to an address to contact for information on the victims. If the site comes up in German, it may have a spot to…"

Dec 2, 2011

Janet L. Vanderpool left a comment for Catherine Davis

"We have an e-mail for grafenek where my Great-Aunt Mina died.I wrote it a couple of months ago,with no response.Her married name hasn't shown up in the records suggested.However,I read in the Grafeneck's web site that 4500 people were…"

Dec 2, 2011

Janet L. Vanderpool left a comment for Catherine Davis

"Catherine:Bless you.I forwarded your comment to my research partner in Illinois.She will be most grateful,as I am.Thank you so much.I goofed also with Mina Her birth was 9 July,1881.Death was 2 August,1940.I think that I messed up and said her death…"

Aug 31, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"LDS has filmed the records of the Steinsfurt protestant church, so you can get them on microfilm in this country via your local Family History Center, without having to write to the church. Here's the catalog listing of the film #s for…"

Aug 31, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"Oops, just realized that if Mina was 59 in 1941, she is not the Mina who got married in 1868. Sorry. Perhaps, the earlier Mina is a different ancestor."

Aug 31, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"The address and other info on the protestant church in Steinsfurt is available at…"

Aug 31, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"Re German script. When I'm doing research, I carry a chart similar to page 2 at http://www.ggrs.com/events/handouts/handout_script.pdf. This is obviously a lot neater than acutal handwriting, but it's a starting point. …"

Aug 31, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"Hi Janet, I discovered I wrote too much to include in one genealogywise message, so am splitting it up into however many it takes.I found the website for the church, with address, that I've sent in its own message, but I think I may have found…"

Aug 31, 2011

Janet L. Vanderpool left a comment for Catherine Davis

"Dear Catherine:We have been busy working on the info that you gave us in early july.We found much in the Steinsfurt civil records.We are now trying to decipher microfilm from Steinsfurt1870's on.My research buddy is having a hard time with…"

Aug 30, 2011

Janet L. Vanderpool commented on Debbie Anne Jackson's group Germany and German Ancestry

"That's good since my Grandma was natualized in 1905 in Dickinson county,Iowa.I have a question about the e-mail address for Steinsfurt city hall.My computer won't let me use any address that doesnt end in .com.Theirs ends in de.How can I…"

Jul 3, 2011

Catherine Davis left a comment for Janet L. Vanderpool

"I couldn't find anything for a Steinsfurt Rathaus, but I found a couple of articles that referred to Steinsfurt as a suburb of Sinsheim and one said it shared a mayor with Sinsheim and they have the same mail code. So, I'd try one of…"

Jul 2, 2011

Janet L. Vanderpool left a comment for Catherine Davis

"Dear Catherine:Thank you for all the great hints.They should keep me busy for awhile.Where do I find the address for Steinsfurt city hall? "

Jul 2, 2011

Janet L. Vanderpool left a comment for Catherine Davis

"Dear Catherine:Thank you so much for the idea of writing to the church in Steinsfurt.Also for the hint on Steinsfurt death records and dates.Susanna is unknown to us other than her marriage an death years.That info will also be useful to verify some…"

Jul 2, 2011

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What surnames are you interested in researching?: Grob Weiser Kistler Weikum Kramer Wetzel

What countries and other locations are you interested in researching?: Steinsfurt and Stebbach in Germany

What is your level of genealogy knowledge?: Beginning Family History Researcher

If you are a genealogy expert, what are your specialties?: I am not genealogy expert.

For what reason did you start genealogy research?: My Grandmother thought that all her family was gone in WW2.I have found much of her Grob family in Steinsfurt.I have found all of her family but my Greatgrandfather Johann Grob,his two wives(Katharina Weiser and Susanna Kistler)and their desendants.There were 5 children in Johann's family.He was the only one who lived and died in Germany.I think that I may have found a Grob relative in Steinsfurt.I need to verify that also.

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Grobs in Germany

Hello from the USA.my name is Janet Vanderpool.I am looking for my Grandmother's Grob family in Germany.She was Katherine Grob born in 1877 on May 30 in Steinsfurt,Germany.HER PARENTS:Johann Grob and Katherine (Weiser),married in the Evangelical Reformed church in Steinsfurt in 1871.Johann was born in 1851,married Katherine in 1871,and died in 1942.All events are thought to be in Steinsfurt.Katherine was born in 1850 and died in 1885.Johann married again(Susanna Kistler born 1855).Susanna was… Continue

Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:33am

Grobs in Germany

Posted on June 27, 2011 at 10:24am

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At 7:48pm on December 2, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: Check out http://www.gedenkstaette-grafeneck.de/329.htm and click on the tab labeled "visitor." It has to an address to contact for information on the victims. If the site comes up in German, it may have a spot to click on "English." If not, go to Google Translate, set it for German to English. Paste the web URL in the German spot. It will come up in the English spot and look exactly the same, like it hasn't done any translation at all. BUT, if you click on the URL on the English side, it will open the website in English.

At 9:24am on August 31, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: LDS has filmed the records of the Steinsfurt protestant church, so you can get them on microfilm in this country via your local Family History Center, without having to write to the church. Here's the catalog listing of the film #s for the various years.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatalog-search-api%3A8080%2Fwww-catalogapi-webservice%2Fitem%2F93365

At 7:54am on August 31, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: Oops, just realized that if Mina was 59 in 1941, she is not the Mina who got married in 1868. Sorry. Perhaps, the earlier Mina is a different ancestor.

At 7:35am on August 31, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: The address and other info on the protestant church in Steinsfurt is available at http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.ev-kirchenbezirk-kraichgau.de/gemeinden/steinsfurt_index.html&ei=8SxeTtmnBNCitgeovNWlCw&sa=X&oi=translate&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ7gEwAA&prev=/search%3Fq%3DEvangelische%2BKirche%2BSteinsfurt%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26hs%3DN9k%26rls%3Dorg.mozilla:en-US:official%26prmd%3Divns. If this doesn't work, just type Evangelischkirche Steinsfurt into Google. When the link comes up, click "translate this page."

At 7:35am on August 31, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: Re German script. When I'm doing research, I carry a chart similar to page 2 at http://www.ggrs.com/events/handouts/handout_script.pdf. This is obviously a lot neater than acutal handwriting, but it's a starting point. Then, before I look for any specific names, I make myself another chart, with the letters of the alphabet as we know them in one column. Then, I look at the record--doesn't matter for whom, just pick any words you can recognize out of any record, and copy the letters as they're written on the document into the second column. To look for a specific name, use this newly made chart and write how you think the name would look in the handwriting. If the handwriting changes within the records, you may have to do this more than once. I have found translating the old German is a long and tedious process, but gets easier the more you do it.

I apologize for not responding to your earlier email. My son got married this past Saturday and the last couple of weeks went by in kind of a blur.

At 7:34am on August 31, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: Hi Janet,

I discovered I wrote too much to include in one genealogywise message, so am splitting it up into however many it takes.
I found the website for the church, with address, that I've sent in its own message, but I think I may have found you something better. You gave me Mina's name in an email you sent me a couple of weeks ago so I was able to use it. Go to familysearch.org and search for Mina or Wilhelmina Grob in Sinsheim or Steinfurt. Several records will come up, including a marriage of Mina to Jakob Braumer on 20 March 1868 in Steinsfurt. The actual record isn't there, but the LDS film # is included, and you can order that through a Family History Center. You don't need to be Mormon to use the center. (I'm not part of their religion, but have used their resources extensively and have everyone at my local center to be friendly and helpful.

I did not find anything on this site for a Mina Grob in Switzerland, but that does not mean she wasn't there. I have only tried a tad of research in Switzerland (my husband's great-grandmother came from there), and I am finding it very difficult. Switzerland has strict laws protecting information (that's why people hide money in Swiss banks). The best information I've found about doing genealogical research in Switzerland is http://www.eye.ch/swissgen/gener-e.htm.

Catherine

At 5:00pm on July 2, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: I couldn't find anything for a Steinsfurt Rathaus, but I found a couple of articles that referred to Steinsfurt as a suburb of Sinsheim and one said it shared a mayor with Sinsheim and they have the same mail code. So, I'd try one of two things. Either try addressing a letter to Rathaus, 74889 Steinfurt, Germany, or write directly to the Sinsheim Rathaus, since it might be the same place. I found it's address: Stadt Sinsheim | Wilhelmstr. 14-18 | 74889 Sinsheim | Tel: 07261-404-0 | rathaus@sinsheim.de.
By the way, there are post 1870 birth and marriage records in the LDS catalog at familysearch.org, so you may want to order those too, if you're looking for children of your great-grandparents.

At 4:11pm on July 2, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: That film # was for the protestant church. Death records for the Catholic Church only go as far as 1900 and are on film # 1049304.

For civil records, you could try writing to the city hall (Rathaus) of Steinsfurt. I don't know if the records would be there or would have been moved to the Baden-Wuerttemberg state archives but the Rathaus could probably tell you that.

At 4:05pm on July 2, 2011, Catherine Davis said…: I checked the catalog on familysearch.org and didn't find any familienbuch for either the evangelische or catholische churches in Steinsfurt. I don't know of any other place online that would have this information. Perhaps you could try writing to the church and asking if they have the information at the church.

But, according to familysearch.org, Steinsfurt death records for 1870-1908 and 1908-1963 are available on film #1189151. It's possible that a death record for Susanna Kistler Grob, if the family didn't move and she died in Steinsfurt, might give her birthplace. Do you have parents' names for her? If so, you might try looking for them on familysearch.org.