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"New information on our John Hale. I discovered through DNA research that my 2nd great-grandfather John Hale (born 1815 Wythe County, VA; died about 1877 Magoffin County, KY) father is Michael Aker (born 1766 Somerset County, PA; died 1833 Wythe…"
Jul 7, 2023

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Hale / Fawbush
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Ireland, Scotland
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At 9:49pm on July 7, 2023, John Hale said…

New information on our John Hale. I discovered through DNA research that my 2nd great-grandfather John Hale (born 1815 Wythe County, VA; died about 1877 Magoffin County, KY) father is Michael Aker (born 1766 Somerset County, PA; died 1833 Wythe County, VA. This has been confirmed by a DNA analyst at DNA Detectives. I have not yet confirmed who John Hale's mother is, I can't find enough matches with Michael Aker's wife Catherine Hepner to do a DNA analysis on her. Michael Aker may have had a liaison with another woman in his community in Wythe County, VA. I'll let you know if I find anything. 

Have you had a DNA test done, either Y-DNA or autosomal? 

At 5:54pm on November 11, 2012, John Hale said…

Thanks for the info.

At 1:21am on November 2, 2012, John Hale said…

Wow, thanks incredible. Thanks for the photo. where are they buried?

At 5:02am on October 30, 2012, John Hale said…

I've never discovered who their grandparents were. This is a document that William Hale (a brother to your Henry and my John used in his Guion Miller application) William%20Hale%20Satement.doc

I could not locate the town he listed, but I did find Abingdon, Washington County, Virginia. I have not found any info on if they were there.

At 4:21am on October 29, 2012, John Hale said…

Hi James,

I found the following info in a dissertation by Richard Allen Carlson, Jr. titled: "“Who’s Your People?” Cumulative Identity among the Salyersville Indian Population""> He states that in the 1860 census “All of the mixed-blood Trusty’s previously shown as “free colored” on past censuses were shown as “white” in this enumeration, as was the Cherokee mixed-blood family of John Hale and Sarah Fawbush”.

 

Footnote #822 states: "For more information regarding the local Indian Hale's, see NAM M1104 R: Appl 39587, Eliza Hale, R306, Salyersville, KY, and NAM M1104 R288: appl 38825. John Hale (Jr.), Salyersville, KY. the former has also married an Indian or mixed-blood "Cherokee" woman named Sally Fawbush. Little is known of John and Sally's life prior to their emigration to the Magoffin area from east Tennessee via Perry County, Kentucky."

 

Also in this dissertation Carlson stated that according to Magoffin County court records John Hale (born in VA) is referred to as "Old Cherokee John Hale" and that he lived at the County Home and died there in 1877, and Carlson also stated, my great grandfather (John Hale who was married to Nancy Trusty and later Margaret Trusty) had also lived at the County Home at some point.

John

At 7:32am on October 28, 2012, John Hale said…

Hi James,

I'm John Hale gg grandson on John Hale (born abt 1815 in VA) and Sarah Fawbush (Born abt 1822 in Sullivan County, TN). My great grandfather (John Hale, born abt 1854 in Perry County, KY) was a brother to your Henry Hale.

I don't know if you've read some of my postings here at Genealogy Wise, but I've discovered through a Y-DNA test that I'm really an Acker/Aker/Akers. It seems that our gg grandfather John Hale (born abt 1815 in VA) was an Acker/Aker/Akers.and was either adopted by a Hale family or taken in by a Hale family and changed his surname.

A recently discovered cousin told me her great grandfather was Henry Hale, and her mother told her that they were not really Hale, they were Acker/Aker/Akers. Her name is Sheryl (Hale) Black, her father is Letcher Talmadge Hale, and they were from TN.


I contacted Sheryl about your message to me and while she said, she doesn't have time to talk about genealogy because of her business, she said you can contact her at any time. Her email address is: sheryl@saucywalkercorner.com

Do you have any info on the Acker/Aker/Akers Hale connection?

John

 
 
 

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