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Started by Ms. Gerry Hill. Last reply by Michelle Stuart Sep 6, 2009.

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Comment by John Hale on April 3, 2012 at 6:36am

In the will of Nicholas Haile below, who is the John Hale/Haile that Nicholas' son Amon sold the land to?

 

Will Book 1.  I Nicholas Hale, senr, of Washington County and state of Tennessee being of a sound mind and memory thanks be to Almighty God do by these presents make and ordain this my last will and testament in manner following:


First--I have given to my six sons, Richard, William, Nicholas, Nathan, Amon and Joshua heretofore their full portion in lieu and other property and so my will is my six sons above mentioned to receive one dollar out of my estate each of them and no more.


Secondly-- after all my lawful debts being paid, my will is my three daughters, Elizabeth Cage, Ruth Hale and Sarah Gray to have the remainder of my personal estate to be equally divided among them.


Thirdly--A certain tract or parcel of land lying along Thomas Murrays line and Thomas --rroms line and Michael Eddlemons line supposed to be between eighty or ninety acres to be equally divided between  the heirs of John Hale, dec'd, and reason for this is the said John Hale dec'd estate being a piece of land I gave to my son Amon Hale and he sold it to the said John Hale and they never had any title from me for it yet so my will is to leave it as above.


Fourthly--my will is that my maletto man, Bob, at my death be set at his liberty and become a free man--except there be a crop on hand, then at the coming in of the crop to be set at his liberty.

Fifthly--My will is that my son, Robert Hale, have the whole managing of my affairs wherefrom I set my hand and seal this 29th day of April, 1807 Nicholas Hale, Sr, (Seal) Loyd + Ford, George X. Jackson,  Rolina Berry His Mark        His Mark


The foregoing will was proven in open court by the oaths of  Loyd Foard and George Jackson, two of the subscribing witnesses thereto at the July session of 1818 and ordered to be recorded.

Comment by John Hale on March 26, 2012 at 6:23pm

Hello all you Where in the Hale members.

I've come to the discovery, that while I am connected to the Nicholas Hale/Haile line form Tidewater, VA through my father's (John Hale) mother, my grandmother (Mary Elizabeth Cooper, I think my gg grandfather - John Hale (born in VA), may not be a Hale.

I looked a the yDNA matches I have at Family Tree DNA and saw that the only match I have at the Hale DNA Project, is with a known Hale cousin and a match with a person of the surname Aker, and I've just discovered that my cousin also matches this same Aker. This means that my gg grandfather could not be a Hale and was probably an Aker and was adopted by a Hale family, or hired by a Hale family and changed his name.

I am looking into info of Aker who may have been in VA at the time my gg grandfather was in VA.

Comment by John Hale on March 19, 2012 at 4:06pm

Thanks Roy.

Comment by Roy Hale on March 19, 2012 at 2:49pm
John, the Cooper line still looks like there is a generation that's wrong or missing immediately after the first Nicholas (He didn't have a son who survived to adulthood named Francis. His only surviving children were George, Mary, and Nicholas Jr.). I don't remember a grandson by that name either, but I would have to check some of my resource books when I get home to be sure. Will check and get back to you.
Comment by John Hale on March 19, 2012 at 12:41pm

Michelle and Roy this is what I tnink is more correct:

Nicholas Haile (1628 - 1668)
My 9th great grandfather
Son of Nicholas
 
Son of Nicholas
Son of Nicholas
Son of Nicholas
Son of John
Son of Benjamin
Son of Benjamin
 
Son of John
 
Son of John
Son of John H.
 
Me, son of John J
 
But, this still seems to be 1 gerneration off from my Cooper line:
 
Nicholas Haile (1628 - 1668)
my 10th great grandfather
Son of Nicholas
Daughter of Francis
Son of Rebecca
Son of Richard
Son of Richard
Daughter of Richard W
Son of Sarah
Daughter of Isham
Son of Mary Jane
Daughter of William Green
Son of Mary Elizabeth
Me, son of John J
 
 
Comment by John Hale on March 19, 2012 at 9:22am
Roy, this is want I found after I corrected my family tree, but still seems that I'm still missing 4 generations. When I research Richard Haile it seems to lead to Nicholas Haile (1628-1668) being his father. Can you help me?
 
This is my Hale line:
Richard Haile (1650 - 1720)
my 6th great grandfather
Son of Richard
Son of John
Son of John
Son of Benjamin
Son of John
Son of John
Son of John H.
You are the son of John J
 
This is my Cooper line: to Nicholas Haile (1628-1668):
 
Nicholas Haile (1628 - 1668)
my 10th great grandfather
Son of Nicholas
Daughter of Francis
Son of Rebecca
Son of Richard
Son of Richard
Daughter of Richard W
Son of Sarah
Daughter of Isham
Son of Mary Jane
Daughter of William Green
Son of Mary Elizabeth
You are the son of John J
Comment by John Hale on March 19, 2012 at 6:46am

Roy, I just checked my tree at Ancestry.com and I think you're right. I have 4 generations between Mary Jane Bays and Nicholas Haile on  my grandmother Copper's line and only 3 generations between my gg grandfather Johhn Hale and Nicholas Haile on my Hale line. I do show two Joseph's as sons of Nicholas Haile. One born 1647-1718 and on born 1656.

I've just looked t the tree again and can't seem to find where the other generation might come from for the Hale line. Well, back to the grind stone.

Comment by Roy Hale on March 19, 2012 at 6:17am
John, I think you may have skipped a generation. I've seen no evidence that the first Nicholas had a son named Joseph. As best I can determine only three children survived to adulthood-- George, Mary (named for mother), and Nicholas Jr. George, who served as both a Lancaster County JP and as a member of the House of Burgesses, had a son named Joseph, and his brother Nicholas Jr had a grandson by that name (the son of his son George).
Comment by Michelle Stuart on March 18, 2012 at 10:20pm

This is great news for you John! If I can help in any way please let me know..

Comment by John Hale on March 18, 2012 at 8:04pm

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Michelle, in the 1860 census for Magoffin County,KY two John Hale families lived in the county, my gg grandfather (John Hale, born 1808-1820 in one of these VA counties: Grayson, Washington, or Wythe); and John Hale (born 1813-1818 Floyd County, KY). I never thought much about the John born in Floyd County, KY, as I didn't think we were related, until now. Through Ancestry.com family trees it seems he is my 4th cousin 7x removed through my grandmother - Mary Elizabeth Cooper (my father's mother's line). Then in another tree it seems that the two John's may be half-brothers, through my father's Hale line. Same father (Benjamin Hale (( b 1768 Franklin County, VA – died 1829 Floyd County, VA)) different mothers (Dicey Franklin and Mary "Polly" Hollandsworth). If this is correct then the John Hale born in Floyd County, KY is my 4th cousin 7x removed on my grandma Cooper's line and my 2nd great uncle on my father's Hale line. This is seems to make more sense than anything I've had on trying to find my gg grandfathers parents, and it seems to make sense that the two John Hale's were in Magoffin County, KY in the 1860 census.

Do you think or have any info that could support this theory? Thanks for any help.

Benjamin Hale line is as follows:

Nicholas Haile (1628-1668)

 

Joseph Haile (1647 - 1718)

Son of Nicholas

 

John Hale (1706 - 1770)

Son of Joseph

 

Joseph Hale (1746 - 1803)

Son of John

 

Benjamin Hale (1768 - 1829)

Son of Joseph

 

John Hale (1815 - 1887)

Son of Benjamin

 

John Hale (1850 - 1938)

Son of John

 

John H. Hale (1888 - )

Son of John

 

John J Hale (1927 - 1986)

Son of John H.

 

John Hale

You are the son of John J

John Hale

 

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