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Comment by John Hale on March 19, 2012 at 6:46am

Roy, I just checked my tree at Ancestry.com and I think you're right. I have 4 generations between Mary Jane Bays and Nicholas Haile on  my grandmother Copper's line and only 3 generations between my gg grandfather Johhn Hale and Nicholas Haile on my Hale line. I do show two Joseph's as sons of Nicholas Haile. One born 1647-1718 and on born 1656.

I've just looked t the tree again and can't seem to find where the other generation might come from for the Hale line. Well, back to the grind stone.

Comment by Roy Hale on March 19, 2012 at 6:17am

John, I think you may have skipped a generation. I've seen no evidence that the first Nicholas had a son named Joseph. As best I can determine only three children survived to adulthood-- George, Mary (named for mother), and Nicholas Jr. George, who served as both a Lancaster County JP and as a member of the House of Burgesses, had a son named Joseph, and his brother Nicholas Jr had a grandson by that name (the son of his son George).

Comment by Michelle Stuart on March 18, 2012 at 10:20pm

This is great news for you John! If I can help in any way please let me know..

Comment by John Hale on March 18, 2012 at 8:04pm

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Michelle, in the 1860 census for Magoffin County,KY two John Hale families lived in the county, my gg grandfather (John Hale, born 1808-1820 in one of these VA counties: Grayson, Washington, or Wythe); and John Hale (born 1813-1818 Floyd County, KY). I never thought much about the John born in Floyd County, KY, as I didn't think we were related, until now. Through Ancestry.com family trees it seems he is my 4th cousin 7x removed through my grandmother - Mary Elizabeth Cooper (my father's mother's line). Then in another tree it seems that the two John's may be half-brothers, through my father's Hale line. Same father (Benjamin Hale (( b 1768 Franklin County, VA – died 1829 Floyd County, VA)) different mothers (Dicey Franklin and Mary "Polly" Hollandsworth). If this is correct then the John Hale born in Floyd County, KY is my 4th cousin 7x removed on my grandma Cooper's line and my 2nd great uncle on my father's Hale line. This is seems to make more sense than anything I've had on trying to find my gg grandfathers parents, and it seems to make sense that the two John Hale's were in Magoffin County, KY in the 1860 census.

Do you think or have any info that could support this theory? Thanks for any help.

Benjamin Hale line is as follows:

Nicholas Haile (1628-1668)

 

Joseph Haile (1647 - 1718)

Son of Nicholas

 

John Hale (1706 - 1770)

Son of Joseph

 

Joseph Hale (1746 - 1803)

Son of John

 

Benjamin Hale (1768 - 1829)

Son of Joseph

 

John Hale (1815 - 1887)

Son of Benjamin

 

John Hale (1850 - 1938)

Son of John

 

John H. Hale (1888 - )

Son of John

 

John J Hale (1927 - 1986)

Son of John H.

 

John Hale

You are the son of John J

John Hale

Comment by John Hale on March 10, 2012 at 7:29am

Thanks Michelle,

An email is on its way to you.

John

Comment by Michelle Stuart on March 9, 2012 at 7:36pm

John I am almost positive that you will be a double Hale as it were..I am sure that both of your lines descend from the same Nicholas Hale.If you will send me your ancestry name I will give you access to my tree..You may or may not find it helpful in your search. please send an email directly if you have any questions that I might be able to help you with. my email is   myheartbelongs2england@gmail.com

Comment by Michelle Stuart on March 9, 2012 at 7:32pm

Thanks Susan for sharing your info! 

Comment by Susan Teresa Holmes on March 8, 2012 at 1:58pm

Hale%20Family.pdf  ok, I gave it a try, hope someone can see it.

Comment by Susan Teresa Holmes on March 8, 2012 at 1:24pm

I did a search on Heritage Quest, through my local Library, Books, Lewis Hale, TN

and found  a book with many Hales, from early 1600's on, with marriage records. I downloaded a pdf version, but don't know if I can share with you all. if any one knows if its ok, I would love to post it here.

Comment by John Hale on March 5, 2012 at 8:36pm

Thanks for info Michelle. I'm trying to find if my Hale line is related to the Nicholas Hale/Haile line. I do relate through my father's mother (my grandmother, Mary Elizabeth Cooper), but I'm hoping that someone can help me discover my gg grandfather's parents, siblings, place of birth, etc.

My Hale line goes as follows:

 

Me - John Hale

 

My father -  John J Hale – born 16 Jul 1927 in Inez, Martin Co., Kentucky; died 23 Dec, 1986, Stouder Memorial Hospital, Troy, Ohio. 

 

My grandfather -  John H. Hale - born 23 Jan 1889 in Salyersville, Magoffin Co., Kentucky.   Death: 31 JAN 1955 Paintsville, Johnson County, Kentucky. Burial: 2 Feb 1955. Lakevillecaptain Powers Cem, Magoffin County, Kentucky.  He married  Mary Elizabeth Cooper.

 

My great grandfather -  John Hale, born 10 Aug, 1853 in Perry County,  Kentucky.  He married first Nancy Trusty - born Nov 27 1857 in Morgan County, Kentucky. She is the daughter of Daniel Trusty and Leaner Eldridge; and second marriage to Margaret Trusty.

 

My great great grandfather -   John Hale - born 1800-1810 in one of these Virginia counties: Grayson, Washington, or Wythe. According to the Wyhte County Historical Society no Hale families were living in Wythe county during the time John Hale would have been born in the county.  They did say that several male children were born in Grayson county that matched the birth time period for John Hale. According to a document that John Hale’s son Willam (born about 1834 in Russell county, VA provided in his Guion Miller Roll application, William stated that his father was born 1808 near Avington, VA. I could not find Avington, VA, but I did find Abingdon, Washington county, VA. William also stated in this document that his father was half Cherokee.John  Hale married Sarah Fawbush - born 1822 in Sullivan, Tennessee.

 

I have no info on who my great great grandfather’s parents were. I ‘m trying to find out this info to further my research on my Hale surname. Is it possible that my  great great grandfather is aloa related the Nicholas Hale/Haile (born 1628 in Kent England and died 1668 in Tidewater, VA) line?

Thanks for any help.

 

John Hale

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