The Shaker religious society of Kentucky

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Comment by Barbara Whiteside on May 10, 2011 at 9:29pm

whew...I just took a chance in posting the info to you...so glad you got it.   I agree legalese is difficult to fathom at times......but I would try to contact Mrs Curry at Pleasant Hill...think her email can be found on their website......if there was such a legal issue about land problems going on at PH..she may have more knowledge of it.  She is wonderful and knows everything going on in the early days of the society.  As to a divorce....I would certainly check both in Garrard County, KY as well as Mercer County, where Pleasant Hill was located.  His joining the Shakers may have been the reason for the divorce and using that old law that if a couple has one that joins the Shakers and won't leave.....it was cause for a divorce according to KY law......I'd like to know more about the transcript you found ....how did you find it?  I'd like to add to my research on the Shakers with another source at hand.   My own connection is through two of the first original families to join....my 4th gt grandmother and 4th great grandparents..one of them, John Banta, held the first organized meeting of the society at his barn in Henry/Shelby County, KY [it was about on the county line...near Pleasureville, in Shelby County.  His half sister, was the other 4th grandmother...found her grave about 2 years ago in the Shaker cemetery .....been working the Shakers for almost 15 years and know Mrs curry to be a very good source if she is still there.  If I can check on any other names or answer any questions, let me know.

 

barb

Comment by Trudy Lusk on May 10, 2011 at 6:01pm

Thank you Barbara, I appreciate the intormation.  I'm sorry I guess I sent an email through the site rather than posting it.   I can re-post the query if you think it will help.

The family does believe Napoleon and Hester divorced, it's just a matter of finding a record if there is one.   The dates for Napoleon will be most helpful.   John...who knows...   all I have on him is a 1 year old infant on the 1860 census and some family trees floating around without much documentation.   I'll keep this info nearby to see if he connects somewhere.

 

I found a bit more info on Napoleon including a couple of pictures on one of the historical sites.   I also found a court transcript in google/books where the PH, he and some of the other elders where being sued by the person the decendant of the person who sold them the land.  I couldn't make much more out of the transcript, too much legalese.

 

Napoleon and John are a bit of interesting history, I'll continue to look for pieces to the puzzle.

 

thank you for your help,

Trudy Lusk

Comment by Barbara Whiteside on May 9, 2011 at 9:19pm

I just had an email from this site and from Trudy Lusk...but can't find it when I got on genealogywise for the Shaker page I started....so am going to hope this gets to her......

 

first of all it appears Tandy Brown died and was buried at Shakertown/Pleasant HIll on July 17, 1870....there will be no marker..very few are left and they are from the original area of burials dating to about 1813 to app 1835...give or take a year either way.  There are some more recent stones but none of them for this time frame and the Shakers marker would have only the persons initials carved on it........It also says Tandy was born 5/1/1857 in Garrard County, KY..it does not give any further information for him.   I am using Marc Rhorers book GONE TO THE WORLD: VITAL STATISTICS ON INDIVIDUALS IN THE SHAKER COMMUNITY AT PLEASANT HILL, KY published in 1992 and original copy found at Kentucky History Center, Frankfort, KY and another found at the Filson Historical Society, Louisville, KY.  I have my own copy to use for queries.

 

There is John William Brown listed ...with the following info....born 9/11/1865 Bullitt County, KY, arrived at Pleasant Hill on 12/9/1868 and no further info given.

 

The following Browns are also listed just for your records and who knows..might mean something.....

 

Clarissa, arrived 3/12/1846 , deceased [apparently at PH] but no dates or further information.

 

James, born 8/23/1859 Bullitt County, KY arrived at PH on 12/9/1868 and no other info but seems to be closely related to John William as to arrival date and from same county.

 

Monroe born 1/5/1855....all the info listed on him.

 

Napoleon D. born 9/15/1838 Garrard County, KY  arrived at PH on 10/5/1865 no indication of when he left or if he died and buried there.

 

There are two William Browns listed but no info on either of them...though a note on one of them said it was his second time to come to the Shakers.  He might have been a winter Shaker.

 

Those are all the Browns listed in the Rhorer book with the info taken from the original journals kept by the Shakers.

 

I find it interesting that Napoleon landed in Pleasant Hill in the fall of 1865.......and in KY he could have been in the Union OR Confederate armies......so might want to search through both records.  You might also want to check divorces in KY...especially Mercer County.....I don't know how long the law moved down to the years Napoleon was at PH but at one time the law in KY read if one member of the married couple was a Shaker...that was good enough to get a divorce from them.....just a thought as I had cause to research that for one my Shaker family members.

 

Other than the John William there are no other John Browns listed and Mr Rhorer was thorough in his research on the members of the society....might find a typo but in general his book is quite good on info on the Shaker membership.

 

You might want to contact someone at Shakertown.....through their website for Pleasant HIll.....to find anything further.   I know I have been adding to the families I descend from that went to the Shakers and left .......as they were wanting to get more info on the members and descendants.  Its possible someone has sent in more info on the names you are seeking or have info I don't have at hand.   I would hope Mrs. Larrie Curry is still there...she is an encyclopedia on the early Shakers and might have more info on the Browns.

 

Barbara Whiteside

Comment by Lisa Pedersen on March 19, 2010 at 8:14pm

I would LOVE to give her everything I have!! I have pictures, a will, death certificates etc. I JUST today found the great grandaughter of the sister, Sarah Etta McAchran, to my great grandfather Otto McAchran!!! She had 2 pages from the McAchran family bible and has been so much help filling in more gaps. Is there any way I can purchase a copy of the book from Annettte? I would love to have a copy!

Can you please give her my email?

LisaPedersen226@aol.com

Thank you so very much Joel!!!!!

Lisa :-)

Comment by Joel R Shields on March 19, 2010 at 8:09pm

Hi Lisa,
Yes - Annets's book has the children as well.
Thomas Lee Cutler McAchran b. 8 May 1840 Putnam County IN.
Thomas was a Civil War vet - enlisted 23 May 1861 - Company G 2nd regiment, Iowa Infantry. Married 27 Nov. 1864 to Mary Ann Hill. Thomas married again in 1 Oct 1895 to Mrs. Elizabeth J. Boynham. Thomas died 21 April 1921.
James Duncan McAchran b. 1 Sept. 1842 Putnam County, IN. Enlisted 6 May 1861 same unit as Thomas. James moves west to Elko County NV. d. Oct. 1879. buried Bloomfield Iowa.
John Quincy Clay McAchran b. 31 March 1845 ?Shelby County IL. Married 25 December 1866 to Sarah A. Lewis. Sarah was born 1851 in Ohio. John died circa 18 Feb.1923.
William Henry McAchran b. 26 Oct. 1847 Shelby County IL. married 25 August 1872 to Flora J. Clayton b. 3 Nov 1854. William died 21 April 1917 in Bloomfield.
Samuel Goslee McAchran b. 26 June 1851 Bloomfield Iowa. married October 1869 to Eliza. Married again 1887 to Mary E. Jackson. Samuel died 15 April 1928.
Sarah McMullen McAchran b. 14 February 1855. died 17 September 1855 one month after the death of her Mother.
One child born of Sinai: Charles E. McAchran b. 23 Nov. 1860. married Flora Davies 5 May 1886. Charles died in 1889.

Joel's Note: The McAchrans and the Shields must have been close friends as well as relations as the moved together to Putnam Indiana and then on to The same area in Missouri.
Alsi I am quite certain that Anette is a McAchran decendent and would want to have your family information.

Joel Shields

Comment by Barbara Whiteside on March 19, 2010 at 9:02am

wow..thanks Joel...glad you could help Lisa....and glad I set up this site. Love the enthusiasm Lisa....trust me after 50 plus years, it doesn't go away, especially when you find something you've been searching for so long...lol.

Comment by Lisa Pedersen on March 19, 2010 at 8:39am

Does your book have the children of Samuel McAchran and Sarah Lee? That generation would be my great great grandfather Thomas Lee McAchran 1840-1921.

Comment by Lisa Pedersen on March 19, 2010 at 8:38am

OMG thank you SO very much Joel!!!!!! This is SO much help for me!!!

I would LOVE any help building my tree!!!!!!! You have helped me SOOOOOOO much!!

Lisa Pedersen

Comment by Joel R Shields on March 19, 2010 at 8:36am

Hello Lisa,
I have a book by Anette Stanley Rardin with the McAchran family history as well as the Shields. It does show the children of James and Margaret McAchran being;
Nancy McAchran b. 11 May 1796, Pittsylvania County Virginia.
Mary b. 2 October 1797 Pittsylvania County Virginia.
Hannah b. circa 15 Feb. 1800, Kentucky.
John W. McAchran b. circa 5 October,1804 Kentucky
Samuel Goslee McAchran b. circa 15 January 1818 Henry County Kentucky.
Samuel married Sarah M. Lee 14 Oct. 1838 Putnam county Indiana
later married Mrs. Sini C. Lee Stewart 25 December 1859 Bloomfield, Davis county, Iowa.
Died 5 September 1861 Pacific City, Franklin County, MO.
There is more if you want it. Anette Stanley Rardin gets all the credit for this excellent research.
Joel Shields

Comment by Lisa Pedersen on March 18, 2010 at 9:06pm

Hi, I found your site when researching the McAchran family. I am trying to see if the Mary McAchran you have posted here is the same Mary McAchran who is the sister to my 3rd great grandfather Samuel McAchran 1818-1861. He was born in Kentucky, died in the Civil War, and was burried in Iowa.

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