Southern States Problem Solving Discussions - Genealogy Wise2024-03-29T05:45:02Zhttp://www.genealogywise.com/group/southernstatesproblemsolving/forum?feed=yes&xn_auth=noEli Shep Day/Barbara Ellen Boyer Missouri marriage 1880?tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-08-14:3463583:Topic:1358692009-08-14T14:54:47.343ZKate Steerehttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/KateSteere
Hi all-<br />
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I am helping a fellow researcher locate a marriage record for Eli Shepherd Day(1857-1920)(could be Elisha, Elihu, Elijah, and is Elie on his death record) and Barbara Ellen Boyer(1864-1940).<br />
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There is an IGI record for a Eli Shep Day marrying a Barbara Ellen Boyer in Mill Spring, Wayne County, Missouri, in 1880, giving Barbara's age as 15, Eli as 23. But to me it looks like an estimate of where Barbara was at the time and their known ages at the time?<br />
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Their first son(that we know of)…
Hi all-<br />
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I am helping a fellow researcher locate a marriage record for Eli Shepherd Day(1857-1920)(could be Elisha, Elihu, Elijah, and is Elie on his death record) and Barbara Ellen Boyer(1864-1940).<br />
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There is an IGI record for a Eli Shep Day marrying a Barbara Ellen Boyer in Mill Spring, Wayne County, Missouri, in 1880, giving Barbara's age as 15, Eli as 23. But to me it looks like an estimate of where Barbara was at the time and their known ages at the time?<br />
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Their first son(that we know of) was Clarence born in August 1882, in Missouri.<br />
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It appears that Barbara's father Alexander Boyer owned land in both Wayne and Carter County., according to land records found on Ancestry. I'm wondering these acres were given in return for military service perhaps in the Mexican War?<br />
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We have located Barbara's sisters marriages, one was married in 1877, the other in 1882 in Carter County. We find Barbara and her mother(Susan/ Susannah) and siblings living in Wayne County in 1880 and also find them in Carter County in 1880.<br />
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We cannot find Eli and his family in 1870 or 1880, so we don't know where he was. We believe we find him as the son of James H and Denica Day in Missouri in 1860, and on the 1860 and all the other census records, Eli is listed as born in Illinois. On his death record his birth place is listed as what appears to be Saintralia(perhaps Centralia?)<br />
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We find Barbara and Eli together on the 1900, 1910 and 1920 census.In 1900 they are in Mill Spring, Wayne, MO they had been married 19 years acording to the census. In 1910 and 1920 they are in Crystal, Jefferson County, MO. We have their death records, and we have a photo of their tombstone.<br />
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So what I'm trying to figure out is where would Eli and Barbara marry? Would they have married in Carter or Wayne counties in MO, or would there be a reason they would go to Illinois and marry instead. Its possible that the marriage record was too faint to transcribe?<br />
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I have checked and rechecked the Missouri marriage records on Ancestry, I have tried many spellings, used just Eli and Barbara, Day and Boyer.<br />
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Any ideas?<br />
If anyone would like to see the documents we have I will post them, the lady I am helping is trying to complete her research for her mother, and for a Family reunion in September, so any assistance is deeply appreciated. Wayne County, Mstag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-07-26:3463583:Topic:1026542009-07-26T13:01:50.081ZCheryl W. Terryhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/CherylWTerry
My brick wall was proving the lineage of Erwin Elkins to his son, James Garrott Elkins. Erwin and his wife Elizabeth moved from Henry County, Ga. to Ms by 1850. In 1860, they are in Wayne County, Ms on the census. In 1866, Erwin Elkins is on the Ag Census for Wayne County. By 1870, his wife, Elizabeth is still living in Wayne County as a widow and with their younger son.<br />
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James Garrott Elkins does not appear on any deed, will, or estate record for Erwin Elkins. Part of the reason for this is…
My brick wall was proving the lineage of Erwin Elkins to his son, James Garrott Elkins. Erwin and his wife Elizabeth moved from Henry County, Ga. to Ms by 1850. In 1860, they are in Wayne County, Ms on the census. In 1866, Erwin Elkins is on the Ag Census for Wayne County. By 1870, his wife, Elizabeth is still living in Wayne County as a widow and with their younger son.<br />
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James Garrott Elkins does not appear on any deed, will, or estate record for Erwin Elkins. Part of the reason for this is that Wayne County, Ms is a burned County. They have no records prior to 1893. So, I tried the Mississippi Archives. They have no records concerning Erwin Elkins or his wife, Elizabeth.<br />
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The way I was able to prove this lineage was by going back to Henry County, Ga where there were numerous records on Elizabeth and her family. Through her mothers will and a deed between her mother and James Garrott Elkins, I was able to prove that SHE was his mother and that since she married Erwin Elkins before James G's birth, then he had to be his father.<br />
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It was a round about way. But, sometimes, it is the only way to prove something when you run up against a burned county. My Brick Wall in King and Queen County, Virginiatag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-07-13:3463583:Topic:358312009-07-13T13:12:35.855ZRichard Hillhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RichardHill
I have tracked my Richards line back to William Richards, b. 28 Jan 1742 in King and Queen County, VA. That is a burned county and I can't find anything about William's parents or siblings. William was married twice, to Amy Mabry (before 1776) and Nancy Mercer (1799). William later moved to Georgia and then Alabama, where he died 07 Feb. 1836.<br />
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Thanks to Y-DNA testing at Family Tree DNA, I know William shares a common ancestor with two other Richards men.<br />
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One is Stephen Richards b. 1796 in NC.…
I have tracked my Richards line back to William Richards, b. 28 Jan 1742 in King and Queen County, VA. That is a burned county and I can't find anything about William's parents or siblings. William was married twice, to Amy Mabry (before 1776) and Nancy Mercer (1799). William later moved to Georgia and then Alabama, where he died 07 Feb. 1836.<br />
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Thanks to Y-DNA testing at Family Tree DNA, I know William shares a common ancestor with two other Richards men.<br />
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One is Stephen Richards b. 1796 in NC. He resided in Jackson & Calhoun Counties FL and was in Alexandria, Rapides Parish, LA by 1860. He married Sarah Noles 10 Mar 1820.<br />
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The other is William Richards b. abt. 1786 in NC or MD and died in Pickens Co., GA 10 Sep 1866. His wife, Dysey Cobb, was born in 1788 and died 1855.<br />
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I have met several distant cousins online that are all stuck in the same place. Some say our William from Virginia is in the DAR records as a Captain. Another believes that was a different William Richards. All the books I have found on early families named Richards seem to be based in New England. I'm hopeful that someone in this group might have some creative suggestions on how to get around this brick wall.<br />
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Thanks.<br />
Richard Hill Using Occupations To Break Down a Wall and Find Relativestag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-07-12:3463583:Topic:319972009-07-12T18:55:14.175ZFredric Z. "Rick" Saundershttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/FredricZRickSaunders
To get the group going, I will list an example of research from my own family. My John R. Moody was born in North Carolina in 1806. The first record found of him was his marriage in 1827 in Wilson County, TN. He was in the 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860, and 1870 census for Wilson County and died there in 1875. For 20+ years, I had not found his NC origin. He was the only Moody family in Wilson County, TN. A study of his neighbors found that many of them were from NC, but they were from numerous…
To get the group going, I will list an example of research from my own family. My John R. Moody was born in North Carolina in 1806. The first record found of him was his marriage in 1827 in Wilson County, TN. He was in the 1830, 1840, 1850, 1860, and 1870 census for Wilson County and died there in 1875. For 20+ years, I had not found his NC origin. He was the only Moody family in Wilson County, TN. A study of his neighbors found that many of them were from NC, but they were from numerous counties, and no basis was found for giving priority to research one county over the another. What I wanted was <b>one</b> specific county in NC on which to focus research.<br />
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John R. Moody was a <b>blacksmith</b>, as were at least two of his sons, and a grandson. I decided that if John had learned the occupation from his father, then he may have also had brothers that were blacksmiths. I looked through the microfilm of all the Moody families that were listed in 1850 NC and TN census indexes (this was before the Internet). In 1850 Henry County, Tennessee was an I[saac] N[ewton] Moody, age 45, who was born in NC and <b>was a blacksmith</b>. Living close to him was an Elijah Moody, age 37, a farmer and also born in NC.<br />
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The NC Marriage Bond index listed that Isaac N. Moody had married in 1827 in Guilford Co., NC, and the bondsman was <b>Thomas L. Moody</b>. With a specific county to research, the pieces began to fall in place.<br />
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1. A published Bible record for Elijah W. Moody of Henry County listed that his mother was named <b>Thankful</b>, and her death date.<br />
2. <b>Thomas L. Moody</b> was married in 1802 in Guilford County to <b>Thankful</b> McCuition. The marriage record of Thomas to Thankful, combined with Thomas being the bondsman for Isaac, and the Bible record stating that Elijah's mother was named Thankful, suggested that Thomas and Thankful were the parents of Isaac N. and Elijah W.<br />
3. Thomas L. Moody (born about 1778) was a blacksmith, as shown by court records at both his own apprenticeship in 1794 in Guilford County, North Carolina and when later, persons were apprenticed to him.<br />
4. Extant tax records showed that John R. Moody was gone from Wilson County, Tennessee for a few years between the time of the 1830 and 1840 census in which he appeared. A John R. Moody showed up for a couple years in the same tax district as Isaac Newton Moody and Elijah W. Moody in Henry County, Tennessee (about 120 miles west of Wilson County).<br />
5. John R. Moody had a son also named Elijah W. Moody. From this Elijah's TN Confederate pension application, he was born in 1836 in <b>Henry County</b>.<br />
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Thomas L. Moody himself moved to Shelby Co., TN where he remarried in 1830. There are numerous other records that have since been located for these men that I won't go into here that strengthen the evidence that John R. Moody, blacksmith of Wilson County, Tennessee, was the son of Thomas L. Moody, blacksmith of Guilford Co., North Carolina.<br />
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This brick wall was broken by using the occupations given in census records to direct the research to the correct family and localities. BYRDs of GEORGIAtag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-07-11:3463583:Topic:189732009-07-11T03:43:12.291ZLacunahttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/Lacuna
Hi folks,<br />
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I have a small problem. I have a death certificate listing the father of my subject as CLEM BYRD (Emanuel, Appling, Pierce counties in GA). The only one I've found who had a relationship to the family at all was a CLEM BYRD of Appling County, Georgia. Dates July 22, 1843-October 08, 1921. Son of Lewis/Louis J. Byrd and Sarah Purvis.<br />
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However, I found a marriage record which may show that the mother of my subject married a F. H. BYRD (Hall County, GA). The only one I found that…
Hi folks,<br />
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I have a small problem. I have a death certificate listing the father of my subject as CLEM BYRD (Emanuel, Appling, Pierce counties in GA). The only one I've found who had a relationship to the family at all was a CLEM BYRD of Appling County, Georgia. Dates July 22, 1843-October 08, 1921. Son of Lewis/Louis J. Byrd and Sarah Purvis.<br />
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However, I found a marriage record which may show that the mother of my subject married a F. H. BYRD (Hall County, GA). The only one I found that matches is FLEMING H. BYRD of Hall Co., GA. Born Bet. 1867 - 1869. Died ?. Son of Thomas Byrd and Emeline Unknown. Brother of Mary Marguerite Byrd, John Frances Marion Byrd, Sarah Byrd Jackson, Emeline L. Byrd, Phillip R. Byrd, Green A. Byrd, Benjamin F./C. Byrd and Lula Byrd.<br />
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So, now I don't know if I need to look for Clem or Flem. So I've done some research on both. :-)<br />
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If you have Georgia BYRD/BIRD relationships, email me directly, and I'll send you what I have on these lines.<br />
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Tara