Genealogy Wise2024-03-28T09:57:27Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordonhttp://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/10507933089?profile=RESIZE_180x180&width=48&height=48&crop=1%3A1http://www.genealogywise.com/group/scotchirish/forum/topic/listForContributor?user=3380g8ykeazu9&feed=yes&xn_auth=noScots-Irish from Northern Irelandtag:www.genealogywise.com,2016-09-23:3463583:Topic:7258322016-09-23T10:10:14.074Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
<p>Hello fellow researchers. My G Grandfather John Bell stated in the 1910 US Federal census that his parents were from Northern Ireland. The question asked if his parents were from another country to specify between Irish Free state or Northern Ireland. On every NB Canadian census 1851-1901 they stated we were from Ireland and they were protestant. Both are buried in the Rural cemetery in Saint George NB Canada John Bell b.1814, d;1881; Mary Jane (Logan) Bell b.1832, d,1905). It was always…</p>
<p>Hello fellow researchers. My G Grandfather John Bell stated in the 1910 US Federal census that his parents were from Northern Ireland. The question asked if his parents were from another country to specify between Irish Free state or Northern Ireland. On every NB Canadian census 1851-1901 they stated we were from Ireland and they were protestant. Both are buried in the Rural cemetery in Saint George NB Canada John Bell b.1814, d;1881; Mary Jane (Logan) Bell b.1832, d,1905). It was always funny watching my parents argue whether we should wear orange or green on St. Patty's day. My Grandmothers maiden name was Fitzgerald. If anyone has any information about anything here please contact me. Appreciatively, Daniel</p> Searching for The Glavin Family of Irelandtag:www.genealogywise.com,2012-07-04:3463583:Topic:4538902012-07-04T21:56:08.455Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
<p>I am lookin for any information on my maternal grandmother. Her name was Ethel Glavin and she came into Ellis Island with her parents as a child. I do not know her parents names, but she had three sisters, two of which also came to America, Muriel Glavin and Edna Glavin. Any direction in tracing my family would be greatly appreciated.</p>
<p>I am lookin for any information on my maternal grandmother. Her name was Ethel Glavin and she came into Ellis Island with her parents as a child. I do not know her parents names, but she had three sisters, two of which also came to America, Muriel Glavin and Edna Glavin. Any direction in tracing my family would be greatly appreciated.</p> burial place of Hart family,Partick Glascowtag:www.genealogywise.com,2011-02-20:3463583:Topic:3251482011-02-20T17:24:29.575Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
I plan to visit Scotland to find the final resting place of my grandmother ,Minnie Jane Hart and her 3 year old daughter of the same name.They resided at 47 North St Whiteinch Partick Glascow,so perhaps someone may know of burial cemetery near there.the Minnie jane died May 10 1910 age 35.Any help gratefully accepted.Thank you Jim Hart
I plan to visit Scotland to find the final resting place of my grandmother ,Minnie Jane Hart and her 3 year old daughter of the same name.They resided at 47 North St Whiteinch Partick Glascow,so perhaps someone may know of burial cemetery near there.the Minnie jane died May 10 1910 age 35.Any help gratefully accepted.Thank you Jim Hart Allen family from Ballycraigy, Larne, Antrim, Irelandtag:www.genealogywise.com,2011-02-16:3463583:Topic:3237482011-02-16T19:01:35.753Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
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<p>I have been told by a member of my family that the ALLEN's came from Scotland. I know that the name goes farther back in time than that, but for my branch of the family Scotland is a starting point. The man that I am focusing on is Robert ALLEN/ALLAN, born in the early 1700's in Lanark (spelling?), Glasgow, Scotland. I don't know who he married, one of his sons was Robert who moved to Northern Ireland.</p>
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<p>Sometime after that move to Northern Ireland and…</p>
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<p>I have been told by a member of my family that the ALLEN's came from Scotland. I know that the name goes farther back in time than that, but for my branch of the family Scotland is a starting point. The man that I am focusing on is Robert ALLEN/ALLAN, born in the early 1700's in Lanark (spelling?), Glasgow, Scotland. I don't know who he married, one of his sons was Robert who moved to Northern Ireland.</p>
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<p>Sometime after that move to Northern Ireland and possibily a couple of generations later, my Great-Great-Grandfather John ALLEN was born. He married a woman named Mary (I don't know her maiden name) in 1833, and raised their family in Ballycraigy, Larne parish, County Antrim, Northern Ireland. Their children were:</p>
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<p>Patrick (Patt), born 1835</p>
<p>Ann, born 1837</p>
<p>Margaret. born 1839</p>
<p>John,jr., born 1841</p>
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<p>John ALLEN,jr., was my Great-Grandfather. In 1863, he boarded a ship and went to America. He settled down in Santa Fe, New Mexico.</p>
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<p>I know that there are untold number of Robert ALLEN's in Scotland that far back in time, but I'm hoping that someone can help me fill in the many gaps that I have. Please contact me at:</p>
<p><a href="mailto:smmoceri@hotmail.com">smmoceri@hotmail.com</a> if you have any information on this part of the ALLEN family.</p>
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<p>Thank you,</p>
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<p>Eiram</p>
<p> </p> The Scots, Scots-Irish and the Making of Americatag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-10-20:3463583:Topic:2916042010-10-20T21:59:54.196Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
<p>For a story about these remarkable people and their importance to the founding of Amerca-go to website: pixleyblair.tribalpages.com</p>
<p>Scroll to the bottom of the homepage to 'Stories' and click on;</p>
<p>'The Scots, Scots-Irish and the Making of America'</p>
<p>For a story about these remarkable people and their importance to the founding of Amerca-go to website: pixleyblair.tribalpages.com</p>
<p>Scroll to the bottom of the homepage to 'Stories' and click on;</p>
<p>'The Scots, Scots-Irish and the Making of America'</p> Laird and Harristag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-10-08:3463583:Topic:2902752010-10-08T19:10:53.520Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
<font size="2">Martha Laird<br />
came to America with her brothers and sisters in the early 1730's on<br />
board the same ship with Samuel Harris, who became her husband soon<br />
after landing in Pennsylvania. Later they moved to North Carolina<br />
and then to Greene County, Georgia. Samuel Harris gave civil<br />
service in the American Revolution and all eight of Martha Laird Harris'<br />
sons and her three sons-in-law served in the war.</font>
<font size="2">Martha Laird<br />
came to America with her brothers and sisters in the early 1730's on<br />
board the same ship with Samuel Harris, who became her husband soon<br />
after landing in Pennsylvania. Later they moved to North Carolina<br />
and then to Greene County, Georgia. Samuel Harris gave civil<br />
service in the American Revolution and all eight of Martha Laird Harris'<br />
sons and her three sons-in-law served in the war.</font> Cummings in County Downtag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-03-07:3463583:Topic:2363252010-03-07T23:02:50.248Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
<p>My only very specific Scots-Irish name is Cummings, a large family headed by the mother who came to New York state in 1798. I think they were from Ballyskeagh but no proof. No information on their trade. They are the start of my mother's line. Unfortunately, Cummings is a common name and also many variations.</p>
<p>Shirley Newbold, Michigan</p>
<p>My only very specific Scots-Irish name is Cummings, a large family headed by the mother who came to New York state in 1798. I think they were from Ballyskeagh but no proof. No information on their trade. They are the start of my mother's line. Unfortunately, Cummings is a common name and also many variations.</p>
<p>Shirley Newbold, Michigan</p> Canadian - Scots Irishtag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-03-07:3463583:Topic:2362812010-03-07T20:55:58.900Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
<p>I suspect that a couple of my family branches ended up in,North Carolina, and Kentucky. McNay and Young, Jamieson and Paterson (MYJP). My Branches are from the Ballywalter area of County Down, Northern Ireland. They had slipped back across the Irish Sea to spend a few years in and around Ayrshire and Glasgow Scotland. It appears they were weavers. My Canadian Branch McNay, didn't arrive here in Canada until the late 1800's. My own Father (Bob McNay)who was born in Scotland didn't…</p>
<p>I suspect that a couple of my family branches ended up in,North Carolina, and Kentucky. McNay and Young, Jamieson and Paterson (MYJP). My Branches are from the Ballywalter area of County Down, Northern Ireland. They had slipped back across the Irish Sea to spend a few years in and around Ayrshire and Glasgow Scotland. It appears they were weavers. My Canadian Branch McNay, didn't arrive here in Canada until the late 1800's. My own Father (Bob McNay)who was born in Scotland didn't arrive here in Canada until 1914 (British Home Child - Quarriers of Scotland) I Joined this group thinking that I may be able further my research into my MYJP family grouping in Ireland through interacting with my possible family branches in Kentucky and North Carolina.</p>
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<p>All and any suggestions on these surnames and their life in Ireland and the USA will be most helpful. </p>
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<p><br/></p> Climbing Over the Brick Wall and back to Irelandtag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-03-07:3463583:Topic:2362752010-03-07T20:43:17.376Zjames h. gordonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jimgordon
C. G. has hit on what we usually have in common: Tracing them back to Ireland. We do not have comprehensive records of British immigrants into the colonies. We do have records of non-British, largely the Germans, as they were required to take an oath of allegience -- just in case they caused trouble.<br></br><br></br><a href="http://www.genealogical.com/university.html">www.genealogical.com/university.html</a> has a series of courses on immigration genealogy that are quite good. It's critical to…
C. G. has hit on what we usually have in common: Tracing them back to Ireland. We do not have comprehensive records of British immigrants into the colonies. We do have records of non-British, largely the Germans, as they were required to take an oath of allegience -- just in case they caused trouble.<br/><br/><a href="http://www.genealogical.com/university.html">www.genealogical.com/university.html</a> has a series of courses on immigration genealogy that are quite good. It's critical to understand the material in these courses. Then (or meanwhile) if you haven't, you check to see if their migration is known. That's easy because what records have surfaced are generally published and these are indexed in a series of books by Filby. These are available on line at Ancestry (or at your FHL perhaps). You do a fast 30 second search at Ancestry and if he's not there, you move on.<br/><br/>What do you do next? Two things. First is order a DNA kit, if you have a male with the su rname. If not, you start tracing collateral lines to find one. I have located the origin of American families using DNA -- once via a match from Australia. This takes a while, so ....<br/><br/>You then go back through your material looking for clues and building a profile of the man whom you are looking for. This is where experience helps. What is a clue to me you may not realize is a clue.<br/><br/>You can also do a search in Ireland for where there are BRITTs. This'll help when lookng for DNA matches. You may need to find a target BRITT and get him DNA tested. This takes time and you'll need to learn how to do some Irish genealogy to get a good map of where the BRITTS were.<br/><br/>In South Carolina, you want to know about head rights. Did he get them or not? Who lived around him? What church did he attend? Who did he marry and who did his children marry? These are all clues. He might have migrated with a minister and others. Sometimes you have to trace the group to find the individual.<br/><br/>I am new to this forum, as we all are, I think. If it seems awkward, the list here might be easier:<br/><a href="http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NIR/Scotch-Irish.html">http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/intl/NIR/Scotch-Irish.html</a> . Don't know.<br/><br/>If you did all this, let us know that you did and maybe we can make some more suggestions. The hard truth is because records were not kept of who left or who arrived here, there may not be a record to find, so you will need circumstantial evidence and DNA to pin down the point of origin. At least BRITT is uncommon -- which is a massive factor in your favor.<br/><br/>Linda Merle<br/>