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Descendants of the Illegitimate Sons and Daughters of the Kings of Britain
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According to the experts the crem de la crem references of royal genealogy are the 2 books by Weis : The MAGNA CHARTA SURETEES and ANCESTRAL ROOTS OF CERTAIN AMERICAN COLONISTS and
THE COMPLETE PEERAGE--- These sources give meticulous and detailed reference to primary documents.To link yourself with a royal ancestor, start with your own birth certificate, Then get documents that support EACH generation, one by one,past you until you get to your gateway ancestor. Most colonial families that were of prominence, would have a multitude of genealogies already written about them that would carry their lines back to a gateway ancestor. Then prove the parentage of your gateway ancestor, If there is a royal ancestor, you will no doubt reach gentry before you reach nobility, The gentry were often the YOUNGER sons of the nobility. Only the OLDEST sons inherit the title of SIR. Before you reach nobility, you will probably go through several generations of gentry.. Once you reach an oldest son of a noble, you will go through several generations of nobility and THEN you MAY reach that generation who was an illigitimate son of a king. Kings frequently gave their illigitimate sons Earldoms.
My gateway ancestor Roger Mallory was mentioned in TWO wills in England ; those of his father and his uncle, both of whom were Church of England Clergymen. The above mentioned sources carried the lineage back to royalty.
Only about 10 or so people out of 45 have posted anything. It is time to have a roll call - who is researching whom?
I will start, although not in any way near the complete list. Besides those families I have already posted in this group I am interested in:
ABBECOURT
ACHALM
ADHEMAR
AIGLE
AIGREMONT
ALSACE
ANCHERIN(S)
ANGELOS / ANGELUS
ANGOULEME
ANTOING
APREMONT
AQUITAINE
ARAGON
ARDENNE(S)
BARBANCON
BAUDEMONT
BEAUMONT
BURGUNDY
CAPET
CAYLUS
CHATILLON
CHALONS
CHAWORTH
CLERMONT
COUCY
DAMMARTIN
DAMPIERRE
DEOLS
DREUX
ENGHIEN / ENGHEIN
GANT
GASCONY
HAINAU(L)T
JOYEUSE
etc. and so on...
Robin,
Here are a few books on the subject -
GENERAL “HOW TO” OR BACKGROUND INFO:
Bird, Jack. "Some Sources for French Genealogy and Heraldry." The Genealogists' Magazine 13:8 (December 1960): 237-241.
Bouchard, Constance B. "Consanguinity and Noble Marriages in the Tenth and Eleventh Centuries." Speculum 56:2 (1981): 268-287.
Interesting discussion of consanguinity among the nobility and the impact of the Catholic Church's changing rules. Consanguinity often becomes a crucial issue when trying to untangle possible relationships among Medieval people.
Chambers, Paul. Medieval genealogy: how to find your medieval ancestors .
Durye, Pierre (trans. By Wilson Ober Clough). Genealogy: an introduction to continental concepts. New Orleans: Polyanthos, 1977.
Lart, Charles E. "French Noblesse." The Genealogists' Magazine 7:5 (March 1936): 229-242.
Rye, Walter. Records & record searching: a guide to the genealogist & topographer
Sheppard, Jr., Walter Lee. Feudal genealogy .
Ms. Coffman,
The problem with this royalty and nobility genealogy I am removing as many ancestors as adding!. Nothing is perfect but I believe Boyd's book is generally acceptable. I always like to double check stuff with Leo VanPas' site Genealogics.com, it appears his one of the more accurate sites (but not perfect either). Some of your sources/references should appear in the Complete Peerage. Also check Ancestral Roots of Certain American Colonists, (8th ed,) it is considered quite good. Good luck. Jim
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