Primrose family Scotland

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Comment by Paul Harding on February 9, 2015 at 5:53pm

New content for a very old branch of the Primrose family tree.  I am researching the history of the Mylne family of Scottish Royal Master Masons, principally John (1611-67) and his nephew Robert (1633-1710).  John was married three times, but all three wives predeceased him, the last being Janet Primrose, whose relationship to the various Primrose/Foulis families has never been established, although RW Mylne in his 'Mylne Master Masons' makes the comment that she was 'probably' related to the Primroses who became Earls of Rosebery etc. The National Archive of Scotland has a record of a bond of 1000 merks to Janet Primrose wife of John Mylne Royal Master Mason by Sir James Murray of Crichton dated 1647 for her daughters Elizabeth and Margaret Fisher.  Janet was therefore married and presumably widowed before she married John, but I have yet to establish when James Fisher died.  From examining birth and baptism records, her first husband was James Fisher, Advocate. The witnesses to both baptisms (16/12/1637 and 06/09/1639) are given, in unusually well-formed handwriting: first named is James Primrose, titled Clerk to the Privy Council, followed by (his brother) Mr David Primrose, Advocate.  In 1639 other witnesses include Mr Thomas Young of Leny, a lawyer who had married James Primrose's daughter Margaret in 1621, and Mr Andrew Oswald, Advocate, who had also witnessed the earlier christening.  (There are other witnesses named).  This seems incontrovertible evidence that John Mylne married into this very influential  Primrose family.  John and Janet went on to have a daughter Marion, who was his heir and married (aged 16) shortly after he died, Sir William Thomson, Town Clerk of Edinburgh, a man of her father's age.  She herself lived to a ripe old age.  This new information may help to clarify how he obtained some of his commissions, and raises interesting possibilities about buildings he may have worked on for his extended family, not to mention the obvious ones like Heriot's Hospital.  Hopefully this should give a few more insights into the way seventeenth century architectural patronage worked.  Any thoughts gratefully received!

Comment by Linda Temple on June 17, 2014 at 10:30am

Sounds like Riddoch, Reidock and Reidheuch are all the same name spelt various ways.  It was common for names for the same person/s to have various spellings right up to fairly recently.  

Comment by James Young on March 13, 2014 at 5:42am

Correction: Margaret Reidheuch is identified as the daughter of James Reidheuch in the Clackmannan PR. The Gartfinnan association is recorded in another document, a marriage contract, I believe.

Comment by James Young on March 6, 2014 at 8:20am

Hello, I've just joined Genealogy Wise, mainly to join the discussion on the Primrose family (I have questions of my own).
Regarding the wife of John Primrose, baker in Kincardine

I wonder if John D., compiler of the Primrose chart made an error in naming her as Margaret Riddoch, or Reidock. I have seen a copy of a marriage contract that names Margaret Reidheuch as the wife of John P. of Burnbrae, father of the baker. I believe that the chart does not name the first wife of John of Burnbrae, only the second wife, Janet Sands, which marriage was childless.

The marriage of John of Burnbrae to Margaret Reidheuch is in the register of Clackmannan parish (31st October 1612), where she is described as the daughter of James Reidheuch of Gartfinnan.


Of course it's possible that John the baker's wife had a similar name to his mother, but I think that the possibility of an error should be borne in mind.
 

Comment by Alison Macbeth Mitchell on February 20, 2013 at 8:57am

I saw the Primrose chart commissioned by Lord Rosebery in the 1960's when my father borrowed it from the Scots Ancestry Research Council in Melville St. Edinburgh. When they closed (?in the 1970's?) it was offered to the Scottish Genealogy Society. However, as it was a blueprint scroll about 7 metres long, and difficult to file and to unroll, I believe it was then offered to the Scottish National Archives, Princes St. Edinburgh or to the National Library of Scotland, George IV Bridge, Edinburgh.

It is probable that Lord Rosebery, Dalmeny, Abercorn, Lothian, has a duplicate blueprint, and his archives may also hold the amendments and additions which my father sent to John Primrose in Coventry the researcher.

Comment by Jamie L Dikeman on February 13, 2013 at 10:50pm

Has anyone actually seen the Primrose chart commissioned by Lord Rosebery or have a copy?  I have tried searching for it, and so far, I've had no luck. 

Comment by Matt Primrose on August 13, 2012 at 4:34pm

I have found a couple of other sites linked to Linda Temple that show a William Primrose, born c. 1741 in Scotland died in Tattenabuddagh, Co Fermanagh, Ireland.  This is where my grandfather was born in 1882 so I am interested to know the source of the information on his death as it may provide a link between the Primroses of Scotland and N. Ireland. 

 

Comment by Alison Macbeth Mitchell on August 13, 2012 at 2:42am

I am curious where L. Primrose Reeves got her tree.  From 1939 till the 1970's John D. Primrose in Coventry was commissioned by Lord Rosebery to make a professional search for all Primroses and a blueprint of that tree was deposited with the Scottish Ancestry Research Council and is now, I think, with the SGS.

In it, he got no further back than a duessed birth date of 1490 of Henry Primrose mentioned in  the Culross charters of 1543 onwards (Reg. Mag. Sig. 8.12.1586) and Rets. & Decreets lxiii 379; Privy Council Register vol.4 p 350; Protocol Book of James Primrose of Newlands).  He had at least 4 sons and possibly also James of Newlands clerk of Culross and Peter of Burnbrae who died 1584 (Edinburgh Testaments).

Peter's great great grandson, a baker /miller (pistor) in  Kincardine, 1616-1662, married a Margaret Reiddock (Dunblane Testamemts), and I have a copy of all his known descendants of the 18th century.  A Janet Blaw married the original Henry's son David ca 1540 and is the ancestor of the Bruce Earls of Elgin.

In a locality the same names are used in repeated generations.  As 15th century records (which rarely preserve the names of any but the wealthy) were scoured by John D. Primrose, I wonder how L. Primrose Reeves found her original Peter and his son Henry with 2 wives?

Comment by L. Primrose Reeves on August 11, 2012 at 1:28pm

This is my first post here.  Peter Prymrois was my 13th great grandfather. The only information I have found for him is that he was born in 1470 in Kincardine, Culross. His son, Henry Primrose, born 1490 in Culross, had 2 wives: Janet Bleau (Blaw) and Margaret Rydoch. Does anyone have information as to whom Peter married, where, when, etc. or who his parents were or clues at to where I can find that information?

 

Comment by John R Hargrave on October 30, 2009 at 8:39pm

My first post on this web site! I'm interested in Hew (Hugh) Primrose Deane, born about 1758, probably in County Down, Ireland. He is a noted artist of the late 1700's. I have recorded that he married Elinor Gamble at Christ Church, Cork. Just curious to find the link with the Primrose family. Maybe you folk can help. Thanks.

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