Genealogy Wise

The Genealogy & Family History Social Network

North Carolina Genealogy Records

Information

North Carolina Genealogy Records

Why does it seem most of my brick walls end up in North Carolina?

Members: 274
Latest Activity: Jun 11

Discussion Forum

Col. Robert Rowan - Cumberland County - my major brickwall - who are his parents 1 Reply

Started by Dan Garnitz. Last reply by Fredric Z. "Rick" Saunders Jan 17.

Looking for help with an actual original Will at the NCSA 5 Replies

Started by Stan Arney. Last reply by DAS Apr 5, 2012.

Comment Wall

Comment

You need to be a member of North Carolina Genealogy Records to add comments!

Comment by Stan Arney on September 22, 2012 at 2:39pm

Place: Arney Plantation

Location: Near Lincolnton, Lincoln County, North Carolina

I'm trying to find, that actual location of the "Arney Plantation".

Original Owner, would have been Jacob Arney, who left his Will, dated in 1782, probated in 1784, in Lincoln County, North Carolina.

Second Owner, Christian "Christy" Arney, Sr. (1750-1834), would have inherited the plantation, from his father, at his father's death.

Third Owner, Christian "Christy" Arney, Jr. (1795-1840), had a choice to inherit the plantation, from his father, or take lots in Lincolnton.

Fourth Owner, uncertain, at the time of his death, Christy, Jr., his property had the potential to be sold, to pay off debts of his Estate.  He had left his property to his Widow and his children, who were mostly minors.  Therefore, the children were being asked to sell off their father's property to pay off his debts.  They had a "guardian" (Henry Cansler).

I hoping to find, the actual location, of the Arney Plantation.

I know that Christian "Christy" Arney, Sr. owned several lots in Lincolnton, and it's quite possible, the Arney Plantation, was near by.  Both Jacob Arney and Christian "Christy" Arney, Sr. are believed to have been buried on the Arney Plantation, though it's possible Christy, Sr. was buried in Lincolnton.

I know there is a Street named "Arney", in the Bogler area of Lincolnton.

Any suggestions, as to how to locate the said, "Arney Plantation", would be greatly appreciated.

Comment by Erin Bradford (freeaainnc) on September 22, 2012 at 12:07pm

Just want to let this group know that I am working on transcribing all of the 1802 Wake County tax lists on my website.  Currently there are 3 districts up and an index of names (index lists the names and which district they are on).  I have completed about 5 districts and will be adding the other 2 that are completed soon.   Will be modifying index as I complete each district and post them to the website.  Website URL is http://www.ncalhn.org/wake/index.html

Comment by Sue Holland Mosser on January 22, 2012 at 1:36pm

I am looking for the parents of Thomas Jordan Holland b. 1811 in Halifax Co., NC.  He supposedly married Elizabeth Worrell, daughter of Amos Worrell, d. 1842 in Halifax Co., NC.  Jordan & Elizabeth were parents of George Washington Holland & Joseph J. Holland.  After Elizabeth died, Jordan married Eliza Madry in 1844 in Halifax Co., NC.  The family migrated to Graves Co., KY by way of TN.  I am also interested in the Worrell family, Amos's antecedents, etc.

Comment by Deloris Williams on January 3, 2012 at 1:26pm

Just to further clarify things, too about the "Black Marriage Bonds" on the Warren Co. site, as I said, they are for the most part, marriages of former slaves. However, included in those are a few couples who were actually born free, so it is not a good source for determining whether or not someone was enslaved. Apparently, during the 1865-1867 time period, Warren Co. chose to record marriages of people of color in separate records, free or former slaves, which is where these particular records come from.  After 1867, North Carolina did away with marriage bonds, and thereafter, only marriage licenses were the accepted method.

Comment by Deloris Williams on January 3, 2012 at 1:15pm

When the Freedmen reported their marriages after the end of slavery, the local authorities issued licenses indicating that their marriage dates were the dates that they reported the marriages, instead of the dates that they were actually married. Those are the records that you will find on FamilySearch.  For the actual dates of their marriages, you need to see the actual Freedmen's marriage records, which are NOT on the FamilySearch website. Also, some couples who had been married or who had been together for a long time while enslaved, chose to remarry legally by the local authorities, either Justice of the Peace or minister, and those records are what you see for the most part on the Warren Co. website under "Black Marriage Bonds"   http://www.ncgenweb.us/ncwarren/marriages/blkmb-gr.htm 

The Freedmen's marriages were kept separate from other marriage records, and are included on microfilm at the State Archives, a number of Counties have been transcribed, for instance, I've transcribed the Freedmen's Marriages for Granville & Franklin and they are on my websites; each county did them differently, some couples reported the actual dates of marriage, while others reported the number of years they had been married, to see examples because both Granville & Franklin did them differently, you may want to see these:

http://www.ncgenweb.us/ncgranville/afro-amer/freedmen-mar.htm

http://www.ncgenweb.us/franklin/marriages/afam-mar.htm

Warren Co. Freedmen's Marriages haven't been done yet, that is a project I will be doing sometime in the near future. But another source for the Freedmen's Marriages, is a book written by Barnetta McGhee White, "Somebody Knows My Name, Marriages of Freed People in North Carolina, County by County", which is a 3 -volume set of all of the Freedmen's marriages that she could find for each County. That is the book that I consulted when looking at your Warren Co. families, and as a matter of fact, I usually find it best to check the Freedmen's marriages when researching African Americans in NC, because it verifies whether or not a person was a slave, rather than a free person.

Comment by Shannon Stewart Christmas on January 2, 2012 at 7:03pm

Deloris,

Thank you for responding to my inquiry. The Phil and Jane you referenced appear to have been a couple, as they apparently married on May 21, 1866 in Warren County, according to a record I located on FamilySearch. The Watson connection is even more interesting because Amy Watson's daughter, Mary Terrell, married Richard Lewis Jr. - the son of  Keziah Watson. Keziah Watson is listed as the daughter of Austin JONES and Fannie/Fanny JOHNSTON/JOHNSON.

This find brings me to another question: Some of the Warren County marriages found on FamilySearch do not appear among the marriage records provided for the same time period on Warren County's NCGenWeb site. Presumably, FamilySearch's marriage records include Cohabitation records but Warren County's NCGenWeb marriage records do not. Do you know when or if the Cohabitation records will be added to the Warren County NCGenWeb site?

Comment by Deloris Williams on January 2, 2012 at 12:39pm

Shannon, the WATSONs were former slaves in Warren Co.Some of them don't show up in the 1870 census, so sometimes it is difficult to trace some names earlier than 1880 unless you do some deep searching.  I have WATSONs in my family and along with many other former slaves,and in the 1870 census, they didn't always use the same 1st names (and sometimes not even the same surnames) that they were later known by, so you'll need to look for families with at least 2 known 1st names & ages, say the children, for instance. In the marriage record for Amy Watson, where it shows her parents names, notice the different surnames, also, in the Warren Co. Marriages we have online http://www.ncgenweb.us/ncwarren/mar-1865-1900/fam-w.htm it indicates that only her mother, Silvia Watson was still living. There is no Cohabitation Marriage record for a WATSON, with a wife named Silvia/Sylvia,etc, so most likely she had no husband prior to the end of slavery (1865).  Another thing to do is to look at the records of the white families living nearby, wills, deeds, etc, to see any mention of slaves that you might be looking for.  No guarantee that this one is the same persons, but it's something to start with, here is the abstract of the will of William WATSON, SR, dated Oct 16 1849, probated Feb. 1863, will book 50,pg 13:

Son WILLIAM WATSON, negro ADAM; son JOHN WATSON, Negro CAESAR; son LEWIS, Negro JOHN; son JAMES, Negro BOOKER; son THOMAS, Negro CHARLES. Daughter INDIANA, Negroes ALGERNON & MARIA; Daughter MARY, Negroes EDMUND & CANDIS. Daughter SALLY ALLEN, Negroes JACK & SAMPSON; Daughter BETSY ALLEN, Negroes RILLER & BETSY; sons WILLIAM & JOHN & son-in-law EDMUND ALLEN, Negroes PETER & SOLOMON, for the lifetime of daughter NANCY, in trust for her. If any of the Negroes should die that I have specifically bequeathed to my children (except those to WILLIAM & JOHN), I ask my friends W. N. EDWARDS & THOS. PLUMMER to allot new ones. To sons WILLIAM & JOHN, Negroes PHIL, JANE & SYLVIA, in trust for my wife's liefteime, to be controlled by them for the use and support of my wife, and at her death to be divided among my children..

With the mention of a slave names SYLVIA and a relationship to the PLUMMER family, it is very likely this is the family you need to research. Of note, is that most often when slaves are mentioned together in the way that the ones were who with SYLVIA, they are a family unit, meaning, it is likely that PHIL & JANE were her parents. I would follow up on finding records of all of the family members mentioned to see what else you can find to trace the slaves.

Comment by Shannon Stewart Christmas on January 1, 2012 at 6:04pm

I am seeking additional information about the ancestors of Amy Watson, an African-American woman reportedly born in North Carolina to Daniel Stainback and Sylvia/Silva Watson circa 1845 and was recorded alive as recently as 1888.

Amy lived in North Carolina's Warren County and married at least twice - to John Hunter (son of John Goodloe and Louisa Hunter) at the home of Thomas B. Watson in 1867 and to Ephraim Hennigan (son of Lucinda George) in 1879.

Amy had at least two children by a Noah Terrell: Cora Terrell (wife of Henry Davis) born about 1869 and Mary Terrell (wife of Richard Lewis Jr.) born in 1871, both of Warren County, North Carolina. Amy Watson also had at least one other daughter, Anner (probably Anna) Twisdale (wife of Frank Plummer); Anner/Anna was born in 1865 and resided in Warren County as well.

I am hoping someone can help me discover more information on Amy and her parents Daniel Stainback and Sylvia/Silva Watson. At this point, I know only that Sylvia/Silva was alive in August 1879 when Warren County issued Amy and Ephraim a marriage license.

Comment by Sharon Attaway Brogdon on January 1, 2012 at 2:53pm
My family landed in Anson, NC before 1800. The surname is ATTAWAY. I am looking for proof that Joseph was son of Elisha and Lettice BARTON. I have a William getting land in Nancimond in 1690 but don't know much of them until they moved on to SC.
Comment by Tyler Hancock on December 29, 2011 at 6:52pm

Hi everyone,

Does anyone have information on the Ownby/Owenby/Ownbeys of Buncombe County, or the Morgans of Rutherford County or the area around Tryon? I need proof--will, probate record, family Bible, land deed, etc--that Joseph B. Ownby born in 1820 on South Hominy Creek, Buncombe Co, NC, died 1896 in Union County, GA, is the son of Porter Ownby and Martha Morgan Ownby. Martha Morgan's parents are Perminter Morgan and Gracie Jones.

I do know that Porter Ownby had the family Bible when his brother, James Ownby, filed for his Revolutionary War pension. I have lots of documents to support that it's common knowledge, but nothing concrete. I'm working on a DAR supplemental application. Can anyone help?

Thanks!

Tyler

 

Members (274)

 
 
 

Members

Badge

Loading…

© 2013   Created by Nat Ins for Genealogical Studies.

Badges  |  Report an Issue  |  Terms of Service