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Comment by George "Pat" Noble on March 30, 2010 at 11:29pm

I've had a recent contact with a second cousin who lives in Northern NJ, not far from where I am. She is the granddaughter of Michael and Isabel (Noble) Gordon, Isabel being my grandfather Robert J Noble's sister. This cousin's father was named Robert Noble Gordon.

Pardon the aside, but for those looking for their Fenian roots, Michael Gordon's father was the infamous P J Gordon, who was quite active in the Land Society in late 19th century Claremorris and arrested with Parnell's boys in 1880.

P J Gordon is quoted in a speech on 26 Sep 1880 at Clonbur, County Galway, where an assassination had taken place the day before: "In this agitation I have taken a most active part . . . I am not here as a Land Leaguer but an Irish nationalist; and if the Land League does not go far enough for the tenant farmers, and if you are prepared to take a better stand - to take the field -- I am prepared to take the sword with you."
Source: Land and Popular Politics in Ireland: County Mayo From the Plantation to the Land War, by Donald E Jordan, Jr, 1994, pg 279

This radical activity in the family might be why my Robert Noble acted like he was hiding from someone for most of his life in the US. He lied about his birthplace (Ocean Port, NJ instead of Enniskillen) on his kids' birth certificates and on two US censuses. He sent the kids on a mystery trip to visit the relatives in June 1930. Anyway, I'm hoping to visit this long lost cousin very soon.

Comment by John Noble on March 30, 2010 at 7:50pm

Mike -- those books were just published in Nov and Dec 2009 - may not be in any libraries yet!

Comment by Michael W. Noble on March 30, 2010 at 7:31pm

Thanks for the offers to help on the 'commissioning', but I plan to start with just a preliminary assessment. This is £25 and is used "...to consider the feasibility of research and it should not be viewed as a genealogical report in its own right. The degree to which research is successful is determined by the extent of available records." If this comes back positive, I may go further. Would like to establish a link from my know Irish ancestors in Cavan to the Nobles in Fermanagh -- if that yields any positive information, we (this group) may be able to identify matches and establish our common ancestor(s). I'll share with you whatever info I come up with. This may take 4-6 weeks, so don't look for anything mid-May at the earliest.

John, thanks for the book references -- I'll see if my local library or LDS-FHC has copies.

Comment by John Noble on March 30, 2010 at 3:16pm

Mike - like Pat, I might be able to help out in some way for any "commissioning". I would suspect that, they may only research only one individual's line - might be interesting to see what they propose! By the way Brian Mitchell has 2 books out - you can get them through Amazon - I have one already and I have one on order. In each the name Noble is mentioned! The second one is supposed to give more details. It appears from the first that Major Arthur Noble who fought in the Battle of Derry in 1689, was born in Ireland in 1654 - but his line came from Cornwall in England!! Although I can't prove it, we may all descend from this man!

Anyway the books are: "Defenders of the Plantation of Ulster, 1641-1691" and "The Surnames of North West Ireland:Concise Histories of the Major Surnames of Gaelic and Planter Origin"

Comment by Michael W. Noble on March 19, 2010 at 1:12pm

Welcome Christy....The Massachusetts line of Nobles is probably the best documented. Check out the book History and Genealogy of the Family of Thomas Noble, of Westfield ... By Lucius Manlius Boltwood. For more information on this book and the Thomas Noble line, also check the ancestry.com Message Boards: Surnames: Noble.

Comment by George "Pat" Noble on March 19, 2010 at 12:35am

Christy, Welcome! My Noble ancestors got off the boat in the US much, much more recently than your husband's, so I haven't dug around in Noble genealogy in the US too much. I've chased other lines to take advantage of my Ancestry membership, but not the Noble line too much. Are you going to be getting one of your Noble male relatives' DNA tested? There's a number of Nobles in the system already. The others in this group can probably tell you more if you're interested.

Comment by George "Pat" Noble on March 19, 2010 at 12:27am

Mike -- Let me know if I can pitch in on the "commissioning". It would be grand if they found a family Bible or two, or a vein of church records for a cluster of Nobles. It would also be interesting to find out if there was a strong migration pattern from nearby inland counties into Fermanagh. Maybe our ancestors were kicked off their lands slightly south of Fermanagh and were only in that county for under a hundred years?

Comment by Terry L Noble on March 18, 2010 at 9:38pm

Michael, that sounds wonderful. Hope the Lancaster thing works. Terry

Comment by Michael W. Noble on March 18, 2010 at 3:16pm

Sorry, meant to include me on the list as well.

Comment by Michael W. Noble on March 18, 2010 at 3:15pm

All signs seem to point to a common ancestor(s) for John, Terry, Bruce, Terry, Pat, perhaps Andrew and also George Helfrick (Noble) in Fermanagh. I joined the Ulster Historical Foundation because they have a lot of records for the counties that make up Ulster. Went to their seminar last weekend in Lancaster, PA, and learned that not all records were lost in 1922 -- lots of local records are still available but not online. Think I'll commission them to do some noble research on the Fermanagh Nobles and see what we can come up with. Stay tuned.

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