John Lindsey, who's your daddy?

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Permalink Reply by GeneJ on July 23, 2009 at 2:28pm

You write, "John served in the First Alabama Cavalry (Union) and was married to Margaret Ingram of Tennessee around 1854."

Do you know, either way, if his widow applied for a service pension? (There is a new GW group for Military Penions.)

Some people find the Civil War pension files provide wonderful information. As another on this list has commented, it can be more challenging to order and receive a file for the right person.

Permalink Reply by jennifer mclaughlin on July 23, 2009 at 3:14pm

Yes, I have the pension file, as well as John's service record. The pension file was much more helpful! This is how I discovered John's place and date of death.

Sadly, it also shows that their marriage certificate was destroyed during the War, and that Margaret lost all other personal papers when she moved West after 1880.

The once Census where I find my John Lindsey (that I am certain is him) is 1860, and it shows him farming on rented land. From the pension file, I was able to determine from whom he rented this land; it seems he never owned any of his own, which makes it even trickier to find him!

I have read the file, over and over, searching for clues...I'm stumped!!!

Thanks for all your ideas, Gene...keep them coming, please! :)

Permalink Reply by jennifer mclaughlin on July 23, 2009 at 4:04pm

Forgot to add, Gene, that Henderson Lindsey had three brothers, and two of them had sons who also served in the same regiment as my John Lindsey. Just another piece of anecdotal evidence!

Thanks,

Jenn

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on September 26, 2009 at 7:31pm

Hi Jenn:

Thank you for providing the additional information.

(1) Did you see my comment HERE about the 1870 census mortality schedules?

(2) You wrote, "Margaret seems to be confused as to whether he died in 1869 or 1870...but two witnesses list the date of death as January 10th, 1869."
If his death was Jan 10 1870, then we might catch him in the 1870 Mortality Schedules, perhaps name badly spelled, etc. (That was the reason I'd asked about cause of death; had hoped the widows pension file provided a medical finding that might show up on the mort. schedule).

(3) You wrote, "but two witnesses list the date of death as January 10th, 1869."
Assume that is from the pension file. Would you provide there names ... if you have the witness statements handy, upload copies.

(4) You wrote, "Margaret returned to her family after John's death (a fellow veteran put her ... ) and can be found living with them in the 1870 Census, in Hardin County, TN.
Do we know the name of the veteran? Ditto, might that vet. name and "put on a boat" stmt come from the pension file? Part of a witness statement. Perhaps upload that reference.

Posting the information about the children would help. A chance, looking at the information would improve our timeline, help with relevancy of other items..

More later. --GJ

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Permalink Reply by jennifer mclaughlin on October 28, 2009 at 11:25am

Hi, Gene...sorry for my extended absence, just now getting back to my research. I will post a seperate thread on John Lindsey's children, but here is the information you requested re: witness statements. (Most documents spell his name "Lindza", but I substitued the correct spelling.)

---W.M. Dawson, neighbor to John Lindsey in Hardin Co, TN until 1869, when they "started West". Dawson writes:

"Lindsey's health got very bad so we stopped over at Memphis, TN and there Lindsey died on Dec 10, 1869. Shortly afterwards I assisted Margaret Lindsey on the boat she started to her relatives which lived in Alabama."

---J.W. Dawson, neighbor to John in Hardin Co, also making voyage West. He writes:

"We all attended his burial om the 11th day of Dec 1869. Lindsey died on the 10th of December. The reason I state that he died on the 10th and we attended his burial on the 11th, our sister Fannie Dawson was buried on the 11th of Dec 1869, she was buried the day that Lindsey was buried, our family record shows Dec 11, 1869."

--Y.A. Yarbrough (most likely related to JT Yarbrough, John's son-in-law). He is quoted here:

"...says he witnessed the death of the said John Lindsey and that he died the 10th day of January, 1869 [all other records show december] in the city of Memphis Tn and witnessed the burial of the body of the said John Lindsey in the cemetery at Memphis."

--R. B. Ingram, wife Margaret's brother, gave this statement:

"...that he knows he died at Memphis TN of varioloid (sic) contracted while he was in the US military service. His death occurred the latter part of the year 1869. The symptoms were similar to those of small pox, though not as many pits or sores as if were small pox. I was not present when he died but saw him during his illness and know it to be thecause of his death."

---His widow, Margaret, gave the following statement:

"My husband John Lindsey died sometime in December of 1869 with varioloid which he contracted in the service and settled in his lungs and finally killed him. The service of the physicians and the exact date of death and the age of complaintant cannot be given due to poor memory...he was never able to perform physical labor to any extent from the date of his discharge until the date of his death."


One other possible clue: John Lindsey was living on land adjacent to Josiah Leeth (Leath) in Hardin Co, TN, prior to his service in the War.

Whew! Hopefully you can help make sense of all this.

Thanks!

Jenn

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on October 28, 2009 at 11:30am

Hi Jenn:

These are great references. Do we both wish those Dawsons had given their _full_ names!
I'm going to tinker with these names. Good stuff. --GJ (love the spelling of the name, too.)

Permalink Reply by GeneJ on November 13, 2009 at 4:44pm

Hi Jennifer:

Have we posted the sheets containing known census records?

1860 U.S. Census, Hardin County, Tennessee, population schedul, District 10 (Hamburg post office), page ?358 (stamped), sheet 155 (penned as page), dwelling 1063, family 1109, John Lindsey household as of 31 August 1860; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 13 Nov 2009), cites National Archives micropublication M653, roll 1254; subsequently abstracted:
Lindsey, John, ae 28, M, occ: farmer, personal property, 125, b. Alabama
" Margaret, ae 25, F, b. TN
" Emily, ae 6, F, b. TN
" George A, ae 5, M, b. TN
" Laura, ae 2, F, b. TN

1870 U.S. census, Hardin County, Tennessee, population schedule, District 15 (Svannah Tennessee post office), page 503 (stamped), sheet 9 (penned as page), dwelling 59, family 58, Margaret Lindsey residing William Ingram household as of 13 July 1870; digital image, Ancestry.com (http://www.ancestry.com : accessed 13 November 2009), cites National Archives Micropublication M593, roll 1534; subsequently abstracted:
Ingram, Charles, ae 78, M W, occ: farmer, personal asets 400, born VA
" Margaret, ae 68, F W, keeping house, b. VA
Lindsey, Margaret, ae 30, F W, b. TN
" Georgie, ae 15, F W, b. TN
" Mollie, ae ?11, F W, b. TN
" Charles, ae ?8/12, M W, b.TN, born Sept.

Please let me know if you spot an mistake.
More in a bit. --GJ

Attachments:

• Lindsey, John, 1860 Hardin County, TN.pdf, 530 KB
• Lindsey, Margaret, 1870 Hardin County, TN.pdf, 546 KB

Permalink Reply by Jai Gabi on June 3, 2011 at 2:53pm

Hi Jennifer,

I'm pretty sure I'm related to your Lindseys.  My great grandfather was Fountain Monroe Lindsey, b. 1893, Garvin Co., OK.  His father was Elija Millard Lindsey, b.1857 Montevallo, Shelby Co., Alabama.     I see this post was made 2009, but

 I would be happy to give you the information I have if you're still looking for info. 

 

Jai 

Permalink Reply by jennifer mclaughlin on July 8, 2011 at 1:04pm

Hi Jai...would love to see what you have! My Lindseys traveled around OK quite a bit...we could quite possibly share ancestors!

 

Thanks,

 

Jennifer

 

jennleighlind@aim.com

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