Huguenots and Walloons

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Comment by Mary Ellen Aube on August 23, 2012 at 7:34pm

Hi, my name is Mary Ellen and I am descended for Phillippe De La Noye He was a Huguenot whose parents got him out of France to Netherlands and He came to America and founded the Delano family in first New England Then they spread to other parts of the country.  He came on the Fortune.  He originally sailed on the Speewell which set out at the same time as the Mayflower but sprung aleak and had to turn back.  It was the second pilgrim ship to land here.  Fastinating study.

Comment by Judy Holcombe Smith on August 23, 2012 at 4:17pm

Hi,

I'm researching Pairans and Julliens in Mariendorf, Hessen.  My gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather was born Estienne Pairan in 1767 in Mariendorf and emigrated to Philadelphia PA sometime between 1781 and 1784.  He was a hatter in Philadelphia, known as Stephen Payran, living until 1847 and establishing a large number of descendants in the US.

Comment by Debbie Winchell (Loving Dove) on July 9, 2012 at 1:52pm

Hello.  I have Rapalje, Trico and Lemaster in my family.

Comment by M.Verplancke on December 4, 2011 at 5:59am

Hi again Sue,

I just found out that Tanneke's marriage to Arij was her 2nd marriage so that might make it more probably that she was a little older than Arij.

Comment by M.Verplancke on December 4, 2011 at 4:11am

PS and ofcourse Arij and Maerten might not be related at all. The surname might just be a coincidence. However if they are brothers (or father and son) there's also the possibility that he's born in Ghent.

Comment by M.Verplancke on December 4, 2011 at 4:07am

To Sue de Groot,

Hi Sue, Arij van der Keur is one of my ancestors too. However I doubt that Maerten Claesz. van der Keur is his father. Arij's wife Tanneke Pieters de Groet was baptized on February, 7th, 1679 in Leiden which makes me think that Arij's birth probably was around that time too. Often the men were a little older than their wives so I think he might be from around 1676 to 1680. Ofcourse it's not impossible that he's younger than his wife. However if you look at Arij and Tanneke's children on this site http://www.mijnstambomen.nl/leiden/keur.htm

then you see a Pieter and a Magdalena named after Tanneke's parents but you don't see a Maerten. If you look at Arij's and Tanneke's children you see that the eldest son is named Claas which means there's quite a chance that Arij's father is also named Claas/Claes. The eldest son is often named after the paternal grandfather. So since Maerten's father is also called Claes and Arij's father might be called Claes I think it's more likely that Maerten and Arij are brothers then fathter and son. On the other hand if they were brothers then why didn't Arij call one of his 4 sons Maerten? The reason for this ofcourse might be that the Van der Keur was so big that he didn't came around to naming one if both Maerten and Arij were one of the younger siblings from that family. Or the other sons were named after Tanneke's brothers. This is all speculation ofcourse it's good to keep an open option for multiple options. BTW since Arij has a daughter called Kaatje (Catharina) she "might" be named after the paternal grandmother. Again this is speculation :)

Comment by James P. LaLone on August 22, 2011 at 1:34pm

Using Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy

 

http://www2.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library1/fhc/guides/hinshaw.html

Comment by Sue de Groot, PLCGS on March 14, 2011 at 5:13pm

My Van der Keur family is from Leiden, Netherlands. 300 years after the marriage of Arij van der Keur to Tanneke Pieters de Groet their descendants still live in Leiden and believe that Arij van der Keur was a Huguenot. It is suspected that Arij was born circa 1686-1690 in The Hague. No proof has been located, and again is suspect, that his father was Maerten Claesz van der Keur, a young man from Ghent and his mother was Annetje Pieterse van Raephorst (widow of Pieter Pietersz Courturier. Maerten Claesz van der Keur and Annetje Pieterse van Raephorst were married in The Hague 14 Dec 1687. I am looking for documentation to prove this family connection.

 

Comment by Nancy Bonham Wojcik on December 7, 2010 at 9:01pm

I'm sending you an email. Elizabeth's father Jean - owned property at Harlem on Manhattan Island.

Comment by Willard Saunders on December 7, 2010 at 8:56pm

"Revised History of Harlem (City of New York): Its Origin and Early Annals: Prefaced by Home Scenes in the Fatherlands; Or Notices of Its Founders Before ... the Recovered History of the Land-Titles ... "[Paperback] (available at amazon.com) has between 5 and 10 Baignoux surname listings. The given names are Jeaen, Jean, and John (example"Jeaen Baignoux,worthy French refugee" (probably 1668) p. 247. I'm worried about running out of space here ...willardsaunders@gmail.com

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