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Comment by Catherine Davis on July 9, 2015 at 11:54am

A couple of other ideas, which you've maybe already tried.

Message boards on rootsweb or

Google Pust genealogy and see what comes up.

Check white page websites to see where other Pusts now live and write to them.

Have you tried  The family tree parts of the site are free.

Comment by Helen Pust on July 9, 2015 at 8:17am

There is a family in either Idaho or Washington that my grandmother visited after he died.  I found this and other proof of this in the Border Crossing's.  But have no luck finding who they were.

Comment by Helen Pust on July 9, 2015 at 8:15am

Good Morning Catherine

Thanks for getting back to me regarding my grandfather.  The only family who know his background have passed on.  Most of the living family didn't even know they moved here from Minnesota or that he died due to a runaway team in 1910.  If I could connect the dots better  I believe some of his cousins, uncle, etc are in Wisconsin, Minnesota or scattered across northern USA.  There was a group that came to Canada on the Land Grant in Alberta and Saskatchewan. 

Thanks you have given me some other ideas.  


Comment by Christopher Keener on July 8, 2015 at 3:48pm

I am looking for information on two surnames.

Keener / Kuhner and its variants

Geiselman / Geissman and its variants.

Comment by Colin Larter on July 8, 2015 at 3:29pm

I have some German ancestors with surnames of Zingelmann,Mieland, Peper and Hardrath that came to Queensland Australia

Comment by Catherine Davis on July 8, 2015 at 11:42am

Helen, chances are pretty good that if your grandfather attended protestant churches here, he was a member of the Evangelische Church in Germany. But, every little town has its own Evangelische parish, so you're looking for a needle in the haystack without information that gets you beyond a German state level.   There are no all-Germany indexes to search. Because of the misuses of personal data by Hitler, the Germans do not collect data at a national level. There may be indexes at the state level, but they are not online.  You have to go to Germany or hire a local genealogist to view them. I assume your grandfather is deceased--have you looked at his death certificate? It may only list his place of birth as Germany but, on the other hand, it may give a town.  Are any of his siblings or children still alive who might know where he came from? Have you checked with your own siblings and cousins as to whether they remember any family stories that might help?  Have you checked  They have many German church records online. Have you followed any other part of the family in your research--your grandfather's siblings for example? You've probably heard the genealogy maxim that sometimes you have to go sideways to go forward. You may find a hometown in a record for one of his siblings. What about his parents?  Did they also emigrate to the US--what about their death records?

If you can find a town name somewhere, then I'd check to see if the church records for that town have been microfilmed by LDS.  I'd then order the film via the nearest Family History Center--you will have to go there to view the films, but it is far easier than trying to contact individual churches.  If you have to contact an individual church, you can usually find its address by googling Evangelischekirche with the town name.

Comment by Helen Pust on July 8, 2015 at 8:02am

Hi Catherine

I'm having fun trying to find my grandfather's place of birth.  So far not too much luck.  But I did find the surname Pust is very prominent in the modern state Mecklenburg-Vorpommern of Germany.   He did attend the Baptist or Lutheran church in Minnesota but not sure how to contact the churches in Germany to find which church he may have gone to.

Do you have any suggestions?    Any direction would be greatly appreciated.  This is my huge brick wall.

Thanks   Helen

Comment by Catherine Davis on July 7, 2015 at 1:28pm

To Tim Havenith--

     I have obtained the book Dictionary of German Names by Hans Bahlow, translated by Edda Gentry. The entries in it are somewhat meager. I will type here what it says for Havenith and related names. If you would like me to send scans of the actual pages, please friend me on this site so we can exchange email addresses.

Havenit(h): LGer. for Habenicht(s) [have nothing], see this.

Habenicht (UGer. Habenit, LGer. Havenith): a have-not (MHG nicht=nothing). A knight Walther Habenichts was leader of the first Crusade 1095, Cf. Hablutzel 'have little'. Habelust [Lust=desire, joy], Haberecht [Recht=right], etc.

Hablutzel, Hablitzel (UGer.): 'have little'. Cf. Habenicht

There are no entries in the book for Habelust or Haberecht.


LGer=Low German

UGer=Upper German (obd.) (it doesn't explain the meaning of obd.)

MHG=Middle High German

Comment by Catherine Davis on June 27, 2015 at 8:09am

Tim--a PS--thank you for your offer to search Wiltshire for me.  So far, I have not found any ancestors from that area.  One of my maternal great-grandmothers was born in Frant, Sussex so I've found most of her family in Sussex and Kent records.  She married my great-grandfather in Fraserburgh, Scotland but I have no idea why she went there in the first place.  His family goes back generations in Scotland.

 My German research has primarily been on my husband's family although I have a paternal great-great-grandmother who supposedly came from the Cologne area and I am still trying to find her there.

Comment by Catherine Davis on June 27, 2015 at 7:56am

Tim, it's not any hardship at all to attempt to get this book--whether or not I'm successful may be another question.  Most of the public libraries in the state of Michigan, where I live, are linked through an electronic master catalog and cooperative organization.  With my local library card number, I can request online any book in that catalog--and I found the several libraries with the book you want--and the cooperative will locate the book and have it delivered to my local library.  Sometimes, however, the books in the catalog turn out not to be at the libraries claiming them and so it might take a while for the coop to locate an actual copy.  I'll put the request in today and keep my fingers crossed that it brings a quick response!


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