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For Helen Pust:
Ancestry.com probably has the most indexed records for US ports, so I'd try there first.
Otherwise, Wiki gives these instructions for finding manifests from ports other than NY--
"Other Ports of Entry. To find passenger lists for other ports, see United States, Bureau of Customs, Copies of Lists of Passengers Arriving at Miscellaneous Ports on the Atlantic and Gulf Coasts and at Ports on the Great Lakes, 1820—73, under UNITED STATES - EMIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION in the FamilySearch Catalog Place Search (on 16 Family History Library films). Other ports include Oswegatchie (1821–23), Sag Harbor (1829–34), and Rochester (1866). For indexes to these lists, see United States, Bureau of Customs, Supplemental Index to Passenger Lists of Vessels Arriving at Atlantic and Gulf Coast Ports (Excluding New York [City]), 1820–1874, under:
UNITED STATES - EMIGRATION AND IMMIGRATION - INDEXES (on 188 Family History Library films beginning with film 418161).
Some records recently made available at the National Archives include:
How does a person find ships transcripts for Chicago in 1876?
. Johanna Lucke was born 29 Nov 1861 in Hannover, Duetchland. She came to the USA Apr 1881 to New York. She married William Brose (not sure if spelling is right) who was born 1862 in Germany. He immigrated to USA through Chicago, Illinois July 1876 and applied/received his naturalization 20 Sep 1888 when they lived in Moyer Township, Swift County, MN. This is as far as I can follow him. They had five children: Mary b. Aug 1885, William b. 01 Feb 1887, Helena b. 18 May 1891, Martha b. 30 Apr 1893 and Bertha b. 18 Mar 1895. Mary was born in Benson MN and the others were in Moyer, Swift MN. Johanna married August Pust 17 Aug 1895 in Appleton, MN. They lived in and around Appleton in Swift County and did reside outside of Danvers Village until 1902. August Pust was born 20 Jan 1867 Germany (Prussia). He immigrated to USA 1891 from Swinemaude, Germany to New York. Received his naturalization papers 20 Jan 1892. Johanna and August had 3 children while living in Minnesota; Otto b. 1996, Alma b. 1898 and August (my father) 1900 before immigrating to Big Valley, Alberta, Canada. Augusta Johanna was b. 1904 and Alfred 1906 in Stettler, AB.I have been able to find out much about William Brose but would like to know what happened to him. August and Johanna came through the northern states to Montana and then north into Alberta. They crossed over the border several times visiting family in Montana , Idaho and Washington. It would be nice if I could find the families. I just found Gramma's full name today: Johanna Dorette Lucke though Germany, Lutheran Baptisms 1519-1969. If you could help me it would be much appreciated.Helen Pust
I have today joined this group. I am interested in Germany where my parents immigrated from, therefore i have no ancestors in Northern America. I live in a suburb of Toronto in Canada, if anyone needs any help, please feel free to ask.
I have Fox's in Iowa. You have any connection?
Thanks to all of you. This is great it gives me new leads and possibilities. I sent for both August and Johanna's medical records at our provincial archives yesterday. Thought there might be more info there.
Of course there may not be much for him as our Province was just coming into it's own,. We were still considered a territory not a province. There's records of course but he died at home and sometimes it was just the doctor's notes.
Once again thanks everyone
Good point! But I would substitute "more" for "better". Again, I was amazed to find that my great grandfather had been baptized as a catholic. He didn't have much say at two days old. But in America, our family has followed Protestant lines. I got marched to a Lutheran church at a young age. I have no intent to offend anyones religious believes. My only point was to consider other possibilities of where records might be found.
I'm not an expert on religious records of any type in any country, but I don't think it fair to speculate that Catholics keep better records than Protestant. The quality of records depend on both the quality of record keeping by individual ministers and priests and also on the political situation of a given area. In terms of the first, I've seen great variation within a single church as to the quality of records over time. As to the second, one needs to consider that at the time of the Protestant Reformation, Germany split along religious lines, with Catholics being the predominant group in Bavaria and the far western portion of Germany while the northeast, central, and southwest portions were predominantly Protestant. This is true even today although there is a greater mix of religions in most areas than in the time of the middle ages. At one point in the Middle Ages, the law was that the ruler of a state would determine the religion for all the people he ruled. All of this can have an effect on where records were kept--a small group of Protestants in a Catholic area might be forced by the local law, for instance, to report their births, marriages and deaths to the Catholic Church, and vice versa in a Protestant area. I don't know if this happened, but it is possible at least from a theoretical standpoint. Then you had the French Republic take over parts of Germany in the 1790s and kick out all churches. Napoleon became emperor in 1804 and allowed the re-establishment of the churches. So you might find civil records rather than church records for the years when there were no churches (or you might get lucky and find records from churches who went underground at this time). German unification came in 1871 and civil registration became a requirement for the entire new country in 1876. Some churches may still have kept records after that; other may have stopped.
In some villages, the Catholic Church kept records for both their parishioners and for the Evanglische (Lutheran) parishioners. In the column for religion I have seen "Luth" as well as "R. Cath" and variations of that.
Helen, I was surprised to learn that my great grand father was baptized in Germany as a Catholic. Once in America, he became a Protestant. So you might consider that possibility. I was able to get a record from the Catholic church in Cologne. I think the Catholics might have had better records? So if you know where he was born maybe you can find a Catholic church there with records.
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