Researching Slave Ancestry - Genealogy Wise2024-03-29T06:22:26Zhttp://www.genealogywise.com/forum/topics/researching-slave-ancestry?commentId=3463583%3AComment%3A226729&x=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'm with Michael -- you proba…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-02-06:3463583:Comment:2267292010-02-06T02:55:16.473ZLuckie Danielshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/LuckieDaniels
I'm with Michael -- you probably have identified the right family and agree that using the cluster approach could help to validate your connection.<br />
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One of the terms in genealogy I hate the most, but find to be VERY effective is the "<b>reasonably, exhaustive search</b>" (Michael, I can feel you smiling!) -- you have to approach your core information (what you know) from EVERY possible angle. That means census, death, tax, deeds, schedules, Freedman records, EVERYTHING. Then the slave owners…
I'm with Michael -- you probably have identified the right family and agree that using the cluster approach could help to validate your connection.<br />
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One of the terms in genealogy I hate the most, but find to be VERY effective is the "<b>reasonably, exhaustive search</b>" (Michael, I can feel you smiling!) -- you have to approach your core information (what you know) from EVERY possible angle. That means census, death, tax, deeds, schedules, Freedman records, EVERYTHING. Then the slave owners records -- estate, inventory, bills of sale, bible, church, journal, letters... again EVERYTHING.<br />
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You are correct, this work is hard, but so very worth it to you and your Ancestors.<br />
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Hang in there, connect with the Genea-community (they are a strong and stubborn bunch!:-) and roll up your sleeves!:-)<br />
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Luckie. Hi Deborah! I am more than ha…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-02-06:3463583:Comment:2267202010-02-06T02:28:24.741ZLuckie Danielshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/LuckieDaniels
Hi Deborah! I am more than happy to post your Grandfather's information to my blogs (<a href="http://www.OurAlabamaRoots.com" target="_blank">www.OurAlabamaRoots.com</a> & <a href="http://www.OurGeorgiaRoots.com" target="_blank">www.OurGeorgiaRoots.com</a>), as well as assist you with getting the information posted to relevant message boards. The key is getting the information out where it can be found! Thank you so much, looking forward to working with you!:-)<br />
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Luckie.
Hi Deborah! I am more than happy to post your Grandfather's information to my blogs (<a href="http://www.OurAlabamaRoots.com" target="_blank">www.OurAlabamaRoots.com</a> & <a href="http://www.OurGeorgiaRoots.com" target="_blank">www.OurGeorgiaRoots.com</a>), as well as assist you with getting the information posted to relevant message boards. The key is getting the information out where it can be found! Thank you so much, looking forward to working with you!:-)<br />
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Luckie. I am new to all of this and I…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-02-06:3463583:Comment:2267072010-02-06T01:51:51.292ZMichele Hugheshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/MicheleHughes
I am new to all of this and I am having problems. I think I found who I am looking for in the 1870 census in Orangeburg SC. It is Vandy Pearson his wife is Milly kids Tineh, Evey and Jim. They were in Orange then on the 1880 census They were Vandy and Millie Pearce with kids Eavy, Jim, William, Sinssy, Fannie and Nora. They were in Lyons Township.<br />
The reason I think this is the family I am looking for is I am looking for William;s parents. On William Pierce's death record it lists his parents…
I am new to all of this and I am having problems. I think I found who I am looking for in the 1870 census in Orangeburg SC. It is Vandy Pearson his wife is Milly kids Tineh, Evey and Jim. They were in Orange then on the 1880 census They were Vandy and Millie Pearce with kids Eavy, Jim, William, Sinssy, Fannie and Nora. They were in Lyons Township.<br />
The reason I think this is the family I am looking for is I am looking for William;s parents. On William Pierce's death record it lists his parents as Jim and Millie and he was born in Orangeburg.<br />
So what does anyone else think? How can I find out if this is them? If it is how do I go back from here?<br />
This is so hard! Hi Deborah!
If the docs are…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-08-26:3463583:Comment:1507702009-08-26T17:07:02.663ZLuckie Danielshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/LuckieDaniels
Hi Deborah!<br />
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If the docs are already transcribed it would be great if we could post them here at GenWise, as well as on my Alabama research site - <a href="http://ouralabamaroots.com" target="_blank">Our Alabama Roots</a>.<br />
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Afrigenas.com has a <a href="http://afrigeneas.com/forumd/" target="_blank">Slave Forum</a> where you can post and Ancestry also has an <a href="http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ethnic.afam.slaveinfo/mb.ashx" target="_blank">African American Collection, Slave Information…</a>
Hi Deborah!<br />
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If the docs are already transcribed it would be great if we could post them here at GenWise, as well as on my Alabama research site - <a href="http://ouralabamaroots.com" target="_blank">Our Alabama Roots</a>.<br />
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Afrigenas.com has a <a href="http://afrigeneas.com/forumd/" target="_blank">Slave Forum</a> where you can post and Ancestry also has an <a href="http://boards.ancestry.com/topics.ethnic.afam.slaveinfo/mb.ashx" target="_blank">African American Collection, Slave Information Message Board</a> where this information would be PERFECT.<br />
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My belief is to post to as many outlets as possible.<br />
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Thanks so much. This information will be vital to TILLER researchers with slave ancestors!<br />
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Luckie. I have copies of the estate p…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-08-25:3463583:Comment:1499002009-08-25T12:12:58.169ZDeborah Daniel Jansonshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/DeborahDanielJansons
I have copies of the estate papers of my 3rd g-grandfather, Benjamin Tiller, of Madison County, Alabama. He died prior to the Civil War ending, so the slaves that he owned were listed in with his property. It consisted of their names, ages and sex.<br />
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I do know that after the Civil War, with the 1870 Census, when the black families were finally listed, I have found at least one of the men that had been a slave, still living close to the Tiller family. He had taken their last name. This man's name…
I have copies of the estate papers of my 3rd g-grandfather, Benjamin Tiller, of Madison County, Alabama. He died prior to the Civil War ending, so the slaves that he owned were listed in with his property. It consisted of their names, ages and sex.<br />
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I do know that after the Civil War, with the 1870 Census, when the black families were finally listed, I have found at least one of the men that had been a slave, still living close to the Tiller family. He had taken their last name. This man's name was Richard Tiller and he is pretty much where all of the black line of Tiller's in Madison County, Alabama come from.<br />
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If there is anyone out there that needs the information that I have on this family, please just let me know. I will be more than happy to share anything that I have on them in an effort to help you. Oh goodness Luckie....same he…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-08-06:3463583:Comment:1247332009-08-06T16:38:19.822ZVera Moorehttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/VeraMoore
Oh goodness Luckie....same here!<br />
I had literally a few sentences to start with!! The information I received came from my non-AA maternal grandmother who <i>never</i> met my father's mother, lived in North Dakota and had talked on the phone 1 or 2 times with my paternal grandmother who lived all the way in Georgia!! She died in1968 while my mother was still pregnant with me!! I didn't even start my research until 1994, but just with those few conversations she had she actually remembered a few…
Oh goodness Luckie....same here!<br />
I had literally a few sentences to start with!! The information I received came from my non-AA maternal grandmother who <i>never</i> met my father's mother, lived in North Dakota and had talked on the phone 1 or 2 times with my paternal grandmother who lived all the way in Georgia!! She died in1968 while my mother was still pregnant with me!! I didn't even start my research until 1994, but just with those few conversations she had she actually remembered a few key details including her mother's name!! I made my first inquiries on Afrigeneas (thank you Denise) and once I located my suspected paternal g-grandparents in the 1920 census (Jasper Co., Ga) I worked my way back to 1870 on the Moore side, but it wasn't until after I was able to locate my grandmother in their 1930 census household that I was able to verify I had the absolute correct MOORE family. From here I started working back on her mother's side which brought me to Henry County, Ga (GRANT family) eventually locating the last slave owners of my 4th g-gm and 3rd g-gf and siblings. I also got information from my maternal grandmother regarding my father's father, but not much...just a name and that he had died the year my father was born!! THEN It wouldn't be yet for another 10 years that I had located my father and got confirmation that I had documented the correct families!! For me it was not knowing my father that motivated me into finding out who I was and where I came from. It has also been the starting point of a relationship I now have with him and never thought possible!! He now knows more information about his ancestors then he ever dreamed of and was able to share that knowledge with his older sister before her passing in 2005.<br />
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So my dear Chastity......it may not be easy but IT CAN BE DONE!! You will have tons of help..guaranteed :) I agree Luckie :)
Had it not…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-08-06:3463583:Comment:1246542009-08-06T15:42:31.344ZVera Moorehttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/VeraMoore
I agree Luckie :)<br />
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Had it not been for communication and openness with a descendant of the last slave owner then my gggg-grandmother Lucinda Grant would still be another brick wall!!<br />
I had posted on the Henry County, Ga board at Genforum and it was she who immediately emailed me with an offer of help and information. It was she who still lived in the same county and pulled the records and made physical copies to send me of estate records (William Brown, Henry Co., GA) which named my ancestor…
I agree Luckie :)<br />
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Had it not been for communication and openness with a descendant of the last slave owner then my gggg-grandmother Lucinda Grant would still be another brick wall!!<br />
I had posted on the Henry County, Ga board at Genforum and it was she who immediately emailed me with an offer of help and information. It was she who still lived in the same county and pulled the records and made physical copies to send me of estate records (William Brown, Henry Co., GA) which named my ancestor Lucinda.<br />
She and I corresponded for well over 2 years and by her suspicion is under the belief that the father of Lucinda's children may indeed have been the owners son-in-law Benjamin Grant. That though, I'm afraid may never really be known.<br />
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A few years prior to this I made contact with another descendant of the last slave owner of another 4th great grandmother Caroline Odom of Putnam County, Ga. She contacted me with questions regarding her own ancestors in which I had the answers for her. I had down extensive research on the slave owning family back to 1780 and was able to send her documents. Also her mother (in her 90's) shared stories regarding some of the descendants of her Odom ancestor's slaves and how when she was a child (early 1900's) that she played with these children, ect. Very enlightening indeed :)<br />
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I applaud you too Donna! I am mixed race (tri-racial) and want to know the details on all of my ancestors. The difference is my ancestry is no surprise since I've always been fully aware. You were basically surprised with the knowledge yet have fully embraced it. I wish you the best in your continued efforts in finding your ancestors :) Susan - are you on Twitter as…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-08-01:3463583:Comment:1168582009-08-01T15:14:35.888ZLuckie Danielshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/LuckieDaniels
Susan - are you on Twitter as well? It may not hurt to *tweet* your interest in CURD DNA testing. Have you already posted this to the tried n' true forums? - Ancestry, GenForum & AfriGeneas?<br />
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Luckie.
Susan - are you on Twitter as well? It may not hurt to *tweet* your interest in CURD DNA testing. Have you already posted this to the tried n' true forums? - Ancestry, GenForum & AfriGeneas?<br />
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Luckie. Thanks for your comments. I f…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-07-31:3463583:Comment:1153732009-07-31T15:34:22.125ZDonna Atkinsonhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/DonnaAtkinson
Thanks for your comments. I figure we always talked about our Cherokee History so what is different? I would love to find the common connection. The L01a dna is from Kenya, Mosambique, Brazile and West Indies primarily. How in the world did I get an ancestor in Tn with this DNA? We THINK she was in the US about 1400-1500 or later. Her daugher was born about 1820 so the next lady back would have been born about 1790 or 1800. I lose another one reportedly Cherokee (doubtful) about the same time…
Thanks for your comments. I figure we always talked about our Cherokee History so what is different? I would love to find the common connection. The L01a dna is from Kenya, Mosambique, Brazile and West Indies primarily. How in the world did I get an ancestor in Tn with this DNA? We THINK she was in the US about 1400-1500 or later. Her daugher was born about 1820 so the next lady back would have been born about 1790 or 1800. I lose another one reportedly Cherokee (doubtful) about the same time in Tn. There may be a connection.<br />
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If you have suggestions, we are open to listening.<br />
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Oh yes, I have a Carlock story of a young boy from Memphis Tn I would like to tell. He came from Tn to Missouri in a Barrell according to family and lived in Greenfield, Missouri. If you know him or his family, I would like to hear their side of the story and tell what my family said. I'm on the look-out for desce…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-07-31:3463583:Comment:1149862009-07-31T08:54:59.844ZSusan M CURDhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/SusanMCURD
I'm on the look-out for descendants with surname CURD originally from Virginia who might like to take a Y-DNA to see which family they belong to. Only men can test in order to follow a surname (generally). Contact me at the CURD family Group for details. Susan M CURD
I'm on the look-out for descendants with surname CURD originally from Virginia who might like to take a Y-DNA to see which family they belong to. Only men can test in order to follow a surname (generally). Contact me at the CURD family Group for details. Susan M CURD