Oliphants in the Southern USA-VA, NC, SC, GA, KY, TN - Genealogy Wise2024-03-29T07:52:48Zhttp://www.genealogywise.com/forum/topics/oliphants-in-the-southern?groupUrl=oliphant&commentId=3463583%3AComment%3A206470&groupId=3463583%3AGroup%3A174952&feed=yes&xn_auth=noAny new updates from the rese…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2013-06-26:3463583:Comment:6208942013-06-26T19:08:01.072ZEric Oliphnathttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/EricOliphnat
<p>Any new updates from the research of these lines?</p>
<p>Any new updates from the research of these lines?</p> Rich,
The MD Oliphants are a…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-17:3463583:Comment:2071492009-11-17T00:21:14.224ZRoddy Oliphanthttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RoddyOliphant
Rich,<br />
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The MD Oliphants are a larger group than they even know. It is curious how the Duncan Oliphant descendants have researched and researched and yet have no real books (yet) to speak of about themselves and the MD Oliphants have not got such co-ordinated research and yet have two books about them.<br />
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We are working on the whole Carolinas descent of Oliphants and the MD Oliphants feature large within that area. Certainly, the John Oliphant Sr. mentioned in the Carolina Cradle is related to…
Rich,<br />
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The MD Oliphants are a larger group than they even know. It is curious how the Duncan Oliphant descendants have researched and researched and yet have no real books (yet) to speak of about themselves and the MD Oliphants have not got such co-ordinated research and yet have two books about them.<br />
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We are working on the whole Carolinas descent of Oliphants and the MD Oliphants feature large within that area. Certainly, the John Oliphant Sr. mentioned in the Carolina Cradle is related to Matthew Oliphant, whose descendants' DNA is the same as that of the descendants of William Oliphant of NC. In other words, William and Matthew Oliphant are both MD Oliphants and so therefore is John (Rowan County/Iredell County).<br />
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The MD Oliphants also populated Guilford County in NC. However, this is also a "trap" as there are other Oliphants who appear to come from Guilford Co, NC who are not related. We are carefully "combing out the knots and tangles of the diverse genealogical threads".<br />
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Much more still to come.<br />
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Rod. Fantastic! Thank you kindly.tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-15:3463583:Comment:2068342009-11-15T21:55:24.453ZJeanie DiLeonardohttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/JeanieMcCully
Fantastic! Thank you kindly.
Fantastic! Thank you kindly. Hi Jeanie,
I think that I ha…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-14:3463583:Comment:2064702009-11-14T01:06:05.199ZRoddy Oliphanthttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RoddyOliphant
Hi Jeanie,<br />
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I think that I have said in an e-mail, but for the benefit of others, we have the DNA of one of James Oliphant and Temperance Williams's descendants and know that he is part of the Maryland Oliphant DNA group.<br />
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The ancestry of James back to the Maryland Oliphants is "work in progress".<br />
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Yours aye,<br />
<br />
Rod.
Hi Jeanie,<br />
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I think that I have said in an e-mail, but for the benefit of others, we have the DNA of one of James Oliphant and Temperance Williams's descendants and know that he is part of the Maryland Oliphant DNA group.<br />
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The ancestry of James back to the Maryland Oliphants is "work in progress".<br />
<br />
Yours aye,<br />
<br />
Rod. Hi Vandra,
So far we do not…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-14:3463583:Comment:2064682009-11-14T01:01:44.406ZRoddy Oliphanthttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RoddyOliphant
Hi Vandra,<br />
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So far we do not have a father for James. The DNA of a male descendant from James is identical to the DNA of descendants of Robert Oliphant and Abigail Davenport. Clearly they are closely related. There were a few other people who may have been siblings to either Robert or James and they include:-<br />
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Samuel Oliphant born in SC<br />
Philemon W Oliphant born in SC<br />
Another James Oliphant born in SC<br />
Aaron P Oliphant born in SC<br />
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There are others besides. At the moment we only have an hunch as…
Hi Vandra,<br />
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So far we do not have a father for James. The DNA of a male descendant from James is identical to the DNA of descendants of Robert Oliphant and Abigail Davenport. Clearly they are closely related. There were a few other people who may have been siblings to either Robert or James and they include:-<br />
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Samuel Oliphant born in SC<br />
Philemon W Oliphant born in SC<br />
Another James Oliphant born in SC<br />
Aaron P Oliphant born in SC<br />
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There are others besides. At the moment we only have an hunch as to James's origins.<br />
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Yours aye,<br />
<br />
Roddy. I will, Rod, thank you.
Rega…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-10-20:3463583:Comment:1983862009-10-20T23:45:36.722ZJeanie DiLeonardohttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/JeanieMcCully
I will, Rod, thank you.<br />
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Regarding the 1850 US Federal Census, it actually lists the last 3 girls (Jane, Arsene, and Mary L) as in the household of Robert W. Olliphant (sic), 26, and Elizabeth, 21, so I've listed them as grandchildren of James & Temperance. I've had more luck finding descendants rather than ancestors of James & Temperance. So far, I've found Robert to 1860, James (middle name Meriman) to his death in 1900, John to 1900, William to his death in 1911, Naomi to her death…
I will, Rod, thank you.<br />
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Regarding the 1850 US Federal Census, it actually lists the last 3 girls (Jane, Arsene, and Mary L) as in the household of Robert W. Olliphant (sic), 26, and Elizabeth, 21, so I've listed them as grandchildren of James & Temperance. I've had more luck finding descendants rather than ancestors of James & Temperance. So far, I've found Robert to 1860, James (middle name Meriman) to his death in 1900, John to 1900, William to his death in 1911, Naomi to her death in 1897, and of course Marth (my great-grandmother) to her death. Nothing on Louisa or Nancy after 1850. I've also found many of the grandchildren, great-grandchildren, etc. Well, I now see that John Sco…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-10-20:3463583:Comment:1983732009-10-20T22:13:40.930ZRichie C.http://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RichieC
Well, I now see that John Scott--who is a member of this group--has worked through all of this with excellent source detail! See his site:<br />
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<a href="http://www.tennesseeheritage.com/html/I1383.html" target="_blank">Tennessee Heritage</a>
Well, I now see that John Scott--who is a member of this group--has worked through all of this with excellent source detail! See his site:<br />
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<a href="http://www.tennesseeheritage.com/html/I1383.html" target="_blank">Tennessee Heritage</a> Vandra,
I think the first que…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-10-20:3463583:Comment:1983352009-10-20T20:41:51.036ZRichie C.http://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RichieC
Vandra,<br />
I think the first question is who is the father of Presley Ward Oliphant? I found him on the 1850 Census, and also on the 1850 Slave Schedules...where his name was transcribed as Oliphint. On the 1840 Census, all the Oliphants in Rutherford County, TN were spelled "Oliphint". Though in Greene County, TN, they were still Oliphant.<br />
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In 1840 in Rutherford Co., there were:<br />
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Andrew J. Oliphint, aged 20-30. In his household were 1 female, aged 10-15, 3 females under 5 and 1 male 5-10…
Vandra,<br />
I think the first question is who is the father of Presley Ward Oliphant? I found him on the 1850 Census, and also on the 1850 Slave Schedules...where his name was transcribed as Oliphint. On the 1840 Census, all the Oliphants in Rutherford County, TN were spelled "Oliphint". Though in Greene County, TN, they were still Oliphant.<br />
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In 1840 in Rutherford Co., there were:<br />
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Andrew J. Oliphint, aged 20-30. In his household were 1 female, aged 10-15, 3 females under 5 and 1 male 5-10 yo.<br />
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Isaac Oliphint, aged 20-30. In his household were 1 female 20-30, and one female under 5.<br />
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Isaac N. Oliphint, aged 20-30. In his household were 1 female 20-30, and one female under 5.<br />
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James Oliphint, Sr. aged 60-70. Males in his household: one 40-50; one 20-30; one 15-20; one 5-10; one under 5. Females in his household: one 50-60; one 30-40; one 15-20; one 10-15.<br />
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James Oliphant, Jr. aged 20-30. Females in his household: one `15-20, one under 5.<br />
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In nearby Maury County and Warren County, there were:<br />
JD Oliphant<br />
Samual Oliphant<br />
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Phil W. Oliphant<br />
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Greene County is at the other end of the state.<br />
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So with that all said, it makes me wonder if Presley Ward Oliphant isn't the 20-30 year old son of James Oliphint, Sr. in Rutherford. We know Presley was born around 1810, so he'd be about 30 in 1840.<br />
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-Rich Oliphant; James 1774 1849 Rut…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-10-20:3463583:Comment:1983052009-10-20T19:24:21.432Zvandrahttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/vandra
Oliphant; James 1774 1849 Rutherford Co., Tn. m. Mary (Polly) Compton, 1 Sep, 1797, son-Presley Ward, son-Silas from Burns, Dickson Co., Tn.<br />
Was David father of James? Where did David come from?
Oliphant; James 1774 1849 Rutherford Co., Tn. m. Mary (Polly) Compton, 1 Sep, 1797, son-Presley Ward, son-Silas from Burns, Dickson Co., Tn.<br />
Was David father of James? Where did David come from? Roddy,
I really need to learn…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-10-18:3463583:Comment:1921022009-10-18T02:16:55.594ZRichie C.http://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RichieC
Roddy,<br />
I really need to learn more about these Maryland Oliphants. I think a couple of times now, my hypotheses have been thwarted and the MD Ollies have been the culprit! I will look to those books for some edification. I know just a little of Wm. of NC, from my early years of researching.<br />
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Cheers,<br />
Rich
Roddy,<br />
I really need to learn more about these Maryland Oliphants. I think a couple of times now, my hypotheses have been thwarted and the MD Ollies have been the culprit! I will look to those books for some edification. I know just a little of Wm. of NC, from my early years of researching.<br />
<br />
Cheers,<br />
Rich