For what its worth - My grandmother was Magdolna Stucz, born in Turterebes June 1, 1896. She had a sister Hermina, born Feb 21, 1892. Their father was Mihaly Stucz born 1876 in Turterebes. He was married to Gertrude Hausmann, also born in Turterebes. Somewhere along the way the following Stucz were added to my genealogy software with no relationships, I beleive they are all siblings, but I have no other information on them at this point.
My researched tree is the Molnar family. Magdolna Stucz married Janos Molnar in 1914 in upstate NY (Massena) shortly after she emigrated here from Turterebes.
After I've done some research, I see you're already in my family tree, Jerry. My info ends at Olga Stucz, though. Sorry I didn't have more information for you, most of my info is on the Francia/Molnar/Bauer lineage.
I'm afraid not Jerry. I have nothing in my inbox, and no messages from you in my regular email. Don't feel bad though, I'm new here as well. Judging from the size of this website, it will take some time to learn my way around.
Hermina Stucz and her sister Magdolna both married Molnars. My grandmother (Magdolna Stucz) married Janos Molnar, their son John J Molnar, was my father. Janos Molnar and Magdolna settled in Norfolk, New York. Many descendants still reside in Norfolk, the area had a pretty large Hungarian population.
Hermina married George Frederick Molnar Aug 22, 1911. The only relation of George Fredrick to me is through Hermina and Magdolna Stucz. So far, I have no record of relation between my ancestors and the Molnars that Hermina married into. If there is one, it would be nice to know. I'm 80-90% sure there is a relation, since they both originated in Turterebes. I have more information on those Molnars than my own ancestors, who only go back as far as my great grandfather.
Michael Francia (Mari's husband) I have listed as "Miska" Francia, not as Mihaly, b. Sept 24, 1879 in Turterebes. d.June 14, 1962 in Massena. The marriage date to Mari (Mary) is listed as June 10, 1907 in Turterebes. She and Miska are buried in Massena NY at Calvary Cemetary .
Magdolna and Hermina's father was Mihaly Stucz, and their mother was Gertrude Hausman. Mihaly was born in 1876 in Turterebes, I have no dates for Gertrude, but she was also born there. I would agree that there's a good chance of Hermina and Magdolna being cousins to Istvan (Stephen) Stucz. I'm going to visit the Norfolk/Norwood area in a month or two, I'll see if I can get any further information.
Hi Jerry and Julie,
The John Molnar of Williamstown you mention was my father. My real name is John Molnar III, but everyone calls me Jack. He recently passed away. He and I had been researching the Molnar family for many years now. In his last couple years, he began having a hard time understanding the software and computer, so he managed to delete a few relations. I had backups from years prior which I used last night to restore those lines. The printout you mention from my father was probably printed by me, I had made quite a few for him to give out to people.
He did get some information from Dawna regarding her part of the family, however I'm sure a lot of her family is now missing (recently born descendants).
Regarding Hermina and Magdolna - their husbands Geroge Frederick Molnar and Janos Molnar, were 2nd cousins once removed - a part of the tree my father accidentally deleted.
I also have more information on Istvan (aka:Steven) Stucz. I found his obituary in an archive of the Massena Observer last night. He was born in Turterebes on 12-26-1892 and died April 28, 1970 in Malone. The obit states the following as surviving relatives: 4 daughters, Mrs Michael (Mary Stucz) Sabo of Moria, Mrs John (Olga Stucz) Francia of Syracuse, Mrs William (Julia Stucz) White of Winthrop Rd, Mrs Joseph (Rose Stucz) Toth of Massena. Also a sister, Regina Francisca of Massena, and two bothers, Andrew Stucz of Delhi, Ont, and George Stucz of Elyria Ohio, 20 grandchildren and 17 great grandchildren. It states he was pre-deceased by a daughter, Mrs. William (Margaret Stucz) Hucszel, a year prior. It states Steven's wife was Margaret Bregg, also born in Turterebes. They were married 8-4-1912 in Watertown. She passed away on 1-20-1964. Interesting since my Aunt married into the Bregg family. Her father in law, Joseph Bregg, was from Turterebes as well.
If either of you would like a copy, I saved the pdf file and can email it to you if you'd like. It originally appeared in the Massena Observer on April 30, 1970.
We have just started in on the Genealogy of our family and fit in here. Regina Stucz was my grandmother and was married to Andrew Francia also from Turtedebes. They lived in Massena as well, my grandfather died in 1949 and my grandmother in 1980. Their children were George (Duke), Andrew, Micheal, Steve, Elizabeth and My mother Mary. She was married to be Peter Ruzella, Later changed to Rusello and they lived in Massena as well. I can remeber going to Delhi as a child to the tobacco farm there. I am not sure about the others but I know my "aunt" (as we always called her) Rose Toth is still in Massena and very sharp witted. We saw here at my mother's funeral. I know we are related to the Molnars adn many other Hungarians in the Massena area. My wife is working on the family stuff on Ancestry.
Sorry for not replying the last couple weeks, been pretty busy with other matters lately.
Thanks for the input. Jerry is the one working on the Francia's, so he may want to contact you. I've added the information you provided to my my tree as well. Let me know if you want a copy of the gedcom (send me a msg here or you can send to jmolnar228 AT aol.com. I'm more than willing to share what I have with others in the extended family.
Thanks Jack that would be great. I believe we have found some more information and have seen Several Naturalization forms at the County Clerk in Canton. We spoke with Rose (Stucz) Toth last week and she does know quite a bit.