How do you know what type of source? - Genealogy Wise2024-03-29T15:32:52Zhttp://www.genealogywise.com/forum/topics/how-do-you-know-what-type-of?groupUrl=sourcingyourgenealogy&feed=yes&xn_auth=noSince I last posted, I have d…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-21:3463583:Comment:2080482009-11-21T03:38:48.058ZSue McCormickhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/SueMcCormick
Since I last posted, I have downloaded the computer-based (pdf) version of Elizabeth Shown Mills <i>Evidence Explained</i>, 1st edition. I have spent time yesterday and today studying Chapter 1, looking for those parts of that chapter which I can assimilate into my working methods right now. I'm sure that as my skills grow, I will be returning to this chapter again and again in order to refine them more closely. Since Chapter 1 is about finding and analyzing evidence, rather than about forming…
Since I last posted, I have downloaded the computer-based (pdf) version of Elizabeth Shown Mills <i>Evidence Explained</i>, 1st edition. I have spent time yesterday and today studying Chapter 1, looking for those parts of that chapter which I can assimilate into my working methods right now. I'm sure that as my skills grow, I will be returning to this chapter again and again in order to refine them more closely. Since Chapter 1 is about finding and analyzing evidence, rather than about forming citations, the book hasn't affected my templates at this time.<br />
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Here are the other two templates I have mentioned. These two examples show a line in parentheses which indicates the type of citation the template covers. This line now also appears on the two citations I have already posted.<br />
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The first template is the citation for the widely distributed hard-bound, privately printed <i>Stricklers of Pennslvania</i>. Information for the book was collected by questionnaire and no sources citations were given. I have known since the book was published that the information isn't accurate (the entries for my immediate family are incorrect in birth dates) but is appears to be reasonably accurate in the relationships described. My interest in the book (and the only thing I have used it for) is in the six and a half pages at the beginning of Chapter 8, starting on page 390. This section gives information on my father's family; I have used it to collect names and relationships which are to be subjected to additional research before they become accepted entries in our family tree.<br />
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The second template is for the digital image of the death certificate for my mother's maternal grandmother.<br />
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I hope that these four templates will be of help to other folks working (struggling?) with sources.<br />
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Sue Shame on me, somehow I missed…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-17:3463583:Comment:2071562009-11-17T00:41:24.334ZSue McCormickhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/SueMcCormick
Shame on me, somehow I missed the November 13 posts until just before the start of Jim Avery's PA chat last night. This whole discussion is now so full of ideas that I have found helpful that I took the time today to make copies of each post to include in a section of my "Genealogy Wise" notebook.<br />
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Victor expressed an interest in seeing my templates.<br />
I made a screen capture of the way my specific software (Reunion for Macintosh) allows me to set up the titles a source entry. Reunion has a…
Shame on me, somehow I missed the November 13 posts until just before the start of Jim Avery's PA chat last night. This whole discussion is now so full of ideas that I have found helpful that I took the time today to make copies of each post to include in a section of my "Genealogy Wise" notebook.<br />
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Victor expressed an interest in seeing my templates.<br />
I made a screen capture of the way my specific software (Reunion for Macintosh) allows me to set up the titles a source entry. Reunion has a standard list of such titles, but it allows you to create new ones; it also allows you to arrange them in the order you desire. I think this is probably common to most software programs today.<br />
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But my real template is in a series of pages in my word processing document. Here I have a table which shows the titles (heading) I am using for that particular source as well as the entries for the specific source which I used to construct the template. Following that I have written out my thought processes as I constructed this particular citation style. I than have used the same data for the other two citation styles which appear on the two Quick Sheets developed by Elizabeth Shown Mills.<br />
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This double example is the 1930 census which is a citation style I expect to make lots of use of; it happens to be my first (and so far, only) appearance in a census return.<br />
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My second example is for an email attachment a very generous cousin sent me when I was just launching my voyage into genealogical studies. It is also the first template I worked on.<br />
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I will proofread my other two templates (I noticed a HUGE error in one of them just now) and then post a second set of templates as soon as possible.<br />
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Sue I am laughing at our thread.…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-13:3463583:Comment:2062642009-11-13T14:23:06.647ZVictor G Carrehttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/VictorGCarre
I am laughing at our thread. We must be 2 of a kind. I think I spend way too much time trying to get the citation right, probably more time than it took to find and enter the fact. As they say, 'the devil is in the details."<br />
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I would be interested in seeing your templates. How are you using them?
I am laughing at our thread. We must be 2 of a kind. I think I spend way too much time trying to get the citation right, probably more time than it took to find and enter the fact. As they say, 'the devil is in the details."<br />
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I would be interested in seeing your templates. How are you using them? Thank you for your help.
I a…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-13:3463583:Comment:2062632009-11-13T13:45:25.157ZSue McCormickhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/SueMcCormick
Thank you for your help.<br />
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I agree with you that the point of standardizing your citations is to help future researchers (and perhaps yourself, in case you need to recheck) follow your research trail.<br />
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Your example of the Full Reference Note, gives the accessed date; just yesterday I discovered that the accessed date is what was being used in the Elizabeth Shown Mills examples I was working with.<br />
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I have managed to formulate 4 citation templates (email attachment, privately printed book, census,…
Thank you for your help.<br />
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I agree with you that the point of standardizing your citations is to help future researchers (and perhaps yourself, in case you need to recheck) follow your research trail.<br />
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Your example of the Full Reference Note, gives the accessed date; just yesterday I discovered that the accessed date is what was being used in the Elizabeth Shown Mills examples I was working with.<br />
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I have managed to formulate 4 citation templates (email attachment, privately printed book, census, and electronic source of Death Certificates) that seem to be meeting my needs. So now I feel a bit happier about my progress. I could probably go faster but I like to let my sample sit around awhile then look at it again. In that way, I'm sure that it still means the same thing to me when it's "cold."<br />
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After all, the goal is useful consistency, not speed of production.<br />
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Again, thank you for your help.<br />
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Sue First off, I am no expert by…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-12:3463583:Comment:2060832009-11-12T15:21:12.906ZVictor G Carrehttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/VictorGCarre
First off, I am no expert by any means but here are my comments for what they are worth.<br />
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I use FTM Version 16, yes I am behind the times and FTM 2010 is on my Christmas list. I too try to follow the formating from Elizabeth Shown Mills, "Evidence Explained." I use Source List entry to capture basic info about the record type.<br />
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For example my Souce List entry for the 1836 France Census reads, "1836 France Census, France. Aube. Pel-et-Der. digital images. Archives Departemental de Aube, Les…
First off, I am no expert by any means but here are my comments for what they are worth.<br />
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I use FTM Version 16, yes I am behind the times and FTM 2010 is on my Christmas list. I too try to follow the formating from Elizabeth Shown Mills, "Evidence Explained." I use Source List entry to capture basic info about the record type.<br />
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For example my Souce List entry for the 1836 France Census reads, "1836 France Census, France. Aube. Pel-et-Der. digital images. Archives Departemental de Aube, Les Archive de l'Aube (<a href="http://www.archives-aube.com" target="_blank">http://www.archives-aube.com</a>.' This way I can use this one source entry for every fact I gather from this census record. Then I use the Full Refernce Note to capture the details.<br />
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For example, "1836 France Census, France. Aube. Pel-et-Der. digital images. , Archives Departemental de Aube, Les Archive de l'Aube (<a href="http://www.archives-aube.com" target="_blank">http://www.archives-aube.com</a>). p.11, no.244, family 68, Quirin Francois Carre; (accessed October 23, 2009)."<br />
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This all may not be exactly correct, but I am somewhat handcuffed by FTM formatting. I think the important point is that some future researcher could find the record. I have another question about…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-11-05:3463583:Comment:2041072009-11-05T02:02:59.023ZSue McCormickhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/SueMcCormick
I have another question about source citations.<br />
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I am (currently) assuming that I am on the right track about the use of the Source List entry — since no one has yet answered my earlier questions.<br />
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I have selected the following format for a Source List entry (this is an actual citation)<br />
"1850 Census," Indiana, Wabash County, Chester Twp., (image page 11 of 37), 7 Sep 1850, Digital Download, Ancestrycom @ http:/<a href="http://www.ancestry.com/">www.ancestry.com/</a> 4 Nov, 2000<br />
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Does anyone…
I have another question about source citations.<br />
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I am (currently) assuming that I am on the right track about the use of the Source List entry — since no one has yet answered my earlier questions.<br />
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I have selected the following format for a Source List entry (this is an actual citation)<br />
"1850 Census," Indiana, Wabash County, Chester Twp., (image page 11 of 37), 7 Sep 1850, Digital Download, Ancestrycom @ http:/<a href="http://www.ancestry.com/">www.ancestry.com/</a> 4 Nov, 2000<br />
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Does anyone have any problems following this. Should I use "1 June 1850" (which is the official census date) instead of "7 Sep 1850" (which is the actual day the enumerator listed the details)?<br />
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Help would be much appreciated.