Fees for information from Genealogy sites - Genealogy Wise2024-03-28T20:58:11Zhttp://www.genealogywise.com/forum/topics/fees-for-information-from?commentId=3463583%3AComment%3A214576&feed=yes&xn_auth=noMany libraries have subscript…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-01-17:3463583:Comment:2209882010-01-17T11:20:04.643ZErik S Dillenkoferhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/ErikSDillenkofer
Many libraries have subscriptions to Ancestry.com Library Edition, and all you need is a library card to use it.
Many libraries have subscriptions to Ancestry.com Library Edition, and all you need is a library card to use it. Dick Eastman makes some inter…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2010-01-13:3463583:Comment:2200142010-01-13T15:09:45.686ZJames P. LaLonehttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/JamesPLaLone
Dick Eastman makes some interesting comments on his online newsletter "Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter" regarding this topic, see: <a href="http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/12/why-isnt-it-free.html#more" target="_blank">http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/12/why-isnt-it-free.html#more</a><br />
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Dick Eastman makes some interesting comments on his online newsletter "Eastman's Online Genealogy Newsletter" regarding this topic, see: <a href="http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/12/why-isnt-it-free.html#more" target="_blank">http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2009/12/why-isnt-it-free.html#more</a><br />
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Jim Hi everyone! This is a great…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-29:3463583:Comment:2155362009-12-29T16:49:12.131ZJenhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/Jen995
Hi everyone! This is a great discussion. I, myself, pay for several sites and use them regularly. As each one comes up for renewal, I evaluate how much I have used them lately and how much I see me using them in the near future. If the past/projected use is low, I let them lapse. After all, they will be more than willing to let you come back later, maybe even offering a better deal. Most (all?) pay sites offer a free trial period. I gather a pile of dead ends and make the most of them. Be sure…
Hi everyone! This is a great discussion. I, myself, pay for several sites and use them regularly. As each one comes up for renewal, I evaluate how much I have used them lately and how much I see me using them in the near future. If the past/projected use is low, I let them lapse. After all, they will be more than willing to let you come back later, maybe even offering a better deal. Most (all?) pay sites offer a free trial period. I gather a pile of dead ends and make the most of them. Be sure to cancel within the time constraints if you don't want to keep it because they are waiting to zap your credit card.<br />
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Barbara made a great point about travel expenses and brings me to a thought. An Ancestry.com or other subscription maybe 4-6 months before a big research trip may allow you to make the most of your time on the ground. Who wouldn't want 'just one more day...'? How much would it be worth? Looking back at my 30 years, along with my Mother's and Aunt's 30 each, I wonder how much of what we chased down the hard way is now available in the comfort of my home office with me dressed in my pajamas.<br />
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Happy New Year, Everyone!<br />
Jen Thanks for the invitation, Ca…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-27:3463583:Comment:2150142009-12-27T22:00:44.107ZBarbara Bradley Peturahttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/BarbaraBradleyPetura
<b>Thanks for the invitation</b>, Catherine, to join the discussion on fees for genealogy information -- and whether any genealogy resources are truly free. I have a series of postings called Finding Family for Free in <b><a href="https://relativemusings.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">my blog Relative Musings</a></b> and invite you to check it out. I agree that there are many free and low-cost resources - and I discuss some of them at my GenealogyWise group, also called…
<b>Thanks for the invitation</b>, Catherine, to join the discussion on fees for genealogy information -- and whether any genealogy resources are truly free. I have a series of postings called Finding Family for Free in <b><a href="https://relativemusings.wordpress.com/" target="_blank">my blog Relative Musings</a></b> and invite you to check it out. I agree that there are many free and low-cost resources - and I discuss some of them at my GenealogyWise group, also called <b><a href="http://www.genealogywise.com/group/findingfamilyforfree">Finding Family for Free</a></b>. Catherine posted a great comment there, and I just replied today.<br />
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<b>One other thought on the issue of costs</b>. I live in the state of Washington but many of my ancestors and extended family lived in Milwaukee, Wisconsin. The cost of flying to Milwaukee, paying for a hotel room and cabfare for several days so I could use the printed copies of Milwaukee City Directories would surely cost me more than $750.00 -- or about my Ancestry.com membership for two years. Ancestry lets me find my ancestors in those city directories from 1876 to 1900 and again in some of the years during 1937-1945. All from the comfort of my home.<br />
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To me, the question is whether you get real value for the fees you pay.<br />
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Again, I agree with Catherine's posting at my group that we should always thank the volunteers who help us for free, and happily pay the modest fees of $10 or $15 to genealogy and history societies that send us materials from their archives. And also sign up to be volunteers ourselves if we can, in order to give back. It is the collective genealogy community -- committed, caring and generous -- that makes family history research such an absorbing and satisfying activity.<br />
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Happy New Year!<br />
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Barbara tammy,if you need reserch on…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-24:3463583:Comment:2145762009-12-24T23:33:20.203Zjames harthttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/jameshart
tammy,if you need reserch on irish ancestry a good site is "irish family historyfoundation".while they will eventually charge a small fee,there are various means of elimanation such as getting the area correct or mothers maiden name.Only when u have went thru this process do you make the choice to pay .
tammy,if you need reserch on irish ancestry a good site is "irish family historyfoundation".while they will eventually charge a small fee,there are various means of elimanation such as getting the area correct or mothers maiden name.Only when u have went thru this process do you make the choice to pay . Merry Christmas to you too, L…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-24:3463583:Comment:2145672009-12-24T22:01:49.817ZSarah Coleshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/StephanieHettich
Merry Christmas to you too, LeLani,<br />
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Yes, I read that part too that you submitted here and it concerns me I don't like such an open-ended contract that would allow a third or more parties privey to any of my information I have on their site. It has me thinking there is material that I'll remove from the site. Here is a case where I think I should have thoroughly read it all before signing up some years ago.<br />
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Also, I do not not pay $300/year as you stated in your post. I would never pay such an…
Merry Christmas to you too, LeLani,<br />
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Yes, I read that part too that you submitted here and it concerns me I don't like such an open-ended contract that would allow a third or more parties privey to any of my information I have on their site. It has me thinking there is material that I'll remove from the site. Here is a case where I think I should have thoroughly read it all before signing up some years ago.<br />
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Also, I do not not pay $300/year as you stated in your post. I would never pay such an amount every year for their service. Maybe that is for World Wide Membership or something. I just have the US Membership and the cost is not too high but it's not cheap.<br />
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In the end it seems to me that the possibiity of "stealing" information you might have on there maybe be covered in such an agreement they have with you but seems rather unethical to me as some else stated. I guess it could be said that "user beware." Thanks for your post.<br />
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Steph Hi Stephanie,
First of all, M…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-24:3463583:Comment:2145622009-12-24T19:05:38.568ZLeLani von Boberhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/LeLanivonBober
Hi Stephanie,<br />
First of all, Merry Christmas! Please know that I have had past experience on this subject but am not an expert. I understand all the confusion and controversy that plays a role in copyright laws. As for your prior post, it is in regard to Ancestry's web pages that any person cannot duplicate or otherwise use any ancestry logo's or web page layouts.<br />
I also included and underlined another part of their 'terms' and this is where it gets sticky!<br />
As for you having 'private tree's on…
Hi Stephanie,<br />
First of all, Merry Christmas! Please know that I have had past experience on this subject but am not an expert. I understand all the confusion and controversy that plays a role in copyright laws. As for your prior post, it is in regard to Ancestry's web pages that any person cannot duplicate or otherwise use any ancestry logo's or web page layouts.<br />
I also included and underlined another part of their 'terms' and this is where it gets sticky!<br />
As for you having 'private tree's on Ancestry, you are only blocking them from the general public. Ancestry has all your info on their server's and can use it! By putting info online, you give them that right! And then you have to continuously (usually anually) pay to 'see' your info! (Unless you remove it first)<br />
For some of us, the $300.00 or so price tag is awfully steep when you consider that you could put up your own website for less than $100.00/yr. and have it password protected etc.<br />
Then too, I'd say about 50% of the information on Ancestry is free to the public if they do a little searching! Don't get me wrong - Ancestry is a very reliable source and I mean no dis-respect!<br />
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Happy Holiday's,<br />
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I thought this over and decided to go to Ancestry myself to read about this privacy issue. It seems a bit fuzzy to me. Here is a copy of some of it:<br />
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I thought this over and decided to go to Ancestry myself to read about this privacy issue. It seems a bit fuzzy to me. Here is a copy of some of it:<br />
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USA Your comments about Ancestry.…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-24:3463583:Comment:2145492009-12-24T14:53:27.373ZSarah Coleshttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/StephanieHettich
Your comments about Ancestry.com really concern me. I have listed all my trees I have on there as "private" and feel that if any of my information contained within those trees should remain so. I believe that if any and all of it is my "property" and would go to any length to keep it that way. It's appalling to me to think they would think they have a "right" to any of it to do with what they wish. I certainly would question this practice if I had a public tree also. It makes one think again…
Your comments about Ancestry.com really concern me. I have listed all my trees I have on there as "private" and feel that if any of my information contained within those trees should remain so. I believe that if any and all of it is my "property" and would go to any length to keep it that way. It's appalling to me to think they would think they have a "right" to any of it to do with what they wish. I certainly would question this practice if I had a public tree also. It makes one think again about reading the "fine print" in your agreement with them. You are right also about Rootsweb as it is part of the Ancestry family as is genealogy.com and others. Ayesart this is not always co…tag:www.genealogywise.com,2009-12-19:3463583:Comment:2135272009-12-19T02:46:17.528ZRussell Jordanhttp://www.genealogywise.com/profile/RussellJordan
Ayesart this is not always correct .:) Sometimes ,say at Ancestry,you may have 5-6 people may show a person linked to one family. But not one will show a source of the information it was obtained from. This is not true in all cases,but you will find some.
Ayesart this is not always correct .:) Sometimes ,say at Ancestry,you may have 5-6 people may show a person linked to one family. But not one will show a source of the information it was obtained from. This is not true in all cases,but you will find some.